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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:37 PM Feb 2019

Roger Stone's Posting of the Judge's Photo with Crosshairs Demonstrates the Hubris

of the Trumpsters. They appear to believe that they are truly above the law and are not accountable to it. Any reasonable person would know, instinctively, that posting a threatening photo of the judge in your criminal case is a bad idea. Anyone would know that. And yet, he did just that. He doesn't know. He thinks this is all a game he can play according to his own rules.

Trump is just the same. He lies at times when his lie can be immediately shown to be a lie. He believes that he is not accountable for his statements in any real way. He must believe that, because he contradicts himself constantly. He apparently thinks there is no power of the law that can punish him for anything at all.

We've seen it again and again in Trump's associates. They do what they want, in the belief that nothing can come back to hurt them. Even when some are going to prison for their acts, the rest cannot seem to see that they, too, are in danger. That blind spot, caused by narcissism or some other mental or moral flaw, appears to be part of every Trumpster's make-up.

That is why such people are so dangerous. They believe they have no external boundaries. I suggest those boundaries be applied soon and strongly, to all of them.

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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
2. Perhaps. I think that judge is likely to throw the book at him.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:43 PM
Feb 2019

However, some have suggested that the threatening photo was a ploy to get that judge to recuse herself. Unfortunately for Stone, that has been tried before and the judge was not required to recuse.

I hope she revokes his release and jails him until the trial. We'll see on 2/21 or shortly thereafter. That's when the hearing takes place.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
3. It will only matter until it matters. Right now, It is clearly obvious to me that the consequences
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:45 PM
Feb 2019

of Manaforts lying and behaviors HAVE not prevented Stone and Company from running the table with outrageous behaviors and lies.

Will Stone feel the wrath of consequences? Only Judge Jackson knows.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. Judge Jackson has probably not made a decision yet.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

She'll have the hearing and then decide. I know what I'd do. March Stone off, ricky-ticky, to his cell until the trial. Threatening your judge is not a smart move in any way.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
7. I don't know about that. Trump hasn't seemed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:48 PM
Feb 2019

quick to pardon his minions when they get caught. I think he's getting advice not to do that from someone. He's too stupid to understand that on his own.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
6. All Republicans,especially Stone and Manafort never fear the law.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:47 PM
Feb 2019

They have gotten away with crimes their entire professional lives. Their philosophy is ratfuck and grift as much as you can;at worst you'll be pardoned by a Republican administration.

 
9. Stone is building a case for a mistrial
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:49 PM
Feb 2019

He will claim that the judge is biased against him. Stone is one of those people where everything that they do is for a reason.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
10. That has been tried before. There are court cases.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:50 PM
Feb 2019

Threats to a judge by a defendant are not cause for recusal. They're just additional felonies.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
11. Federal punishment for contempt of court
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:50 PM
Feb 2019

Found this reference for Fed punishment for contempt of court. Hope she inflicts punishment on him and revokes his bail.

6 months in prison and/or $1000

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1995

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Threatening or attempting to intimidate a federal officer is a felony.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Feb 2019

There could be an additional charge brought over this.

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