Why are people so convinced that Trump will be issuing pardons?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

He hasn't yet, and more than one person who used to be affiliated with him is now in jail. Others are under indictment and awaiting trial.

My personal take is that Trump considers anyone who got caught is a loser and doesn't deserve a pardon. He might possibly behave differently if one of his children is indicted, but so far, no pardons. Keep in mind that he always thinks he is the smartest person in the room, and so of course won't be indicted, or even named as "unindicted co-conspirator".

I am making no predictions about how his Presidency will end. Soon, I hope, but he's got every Republican in Congress as an enabler. Also, keep in mind that as incompetent, mean, and dangerous as he is, with Trump in office they are getting so much of what they want: gutting of agencies, rolling back of rules and regulations, young conservative judges getting lifetime appointments. So much damage has already been done that this country is never going to recover, certainly not in the next four or five decades. Meanwhile, military spending goes up while spending for infrastructure or basic social services declines. Taxes on the rich go down while those of middle income pay more and more. It's a snowball that is well on its way downhill, gathering speed, picking up more and more snow, until it's large enough to trigger the avalanche that will bury us all.

[unblock]

1. Giving a pardon *now* frees up the recipient to testify

In certain specific instances, they could even be compelled to testify to the extent the 5th amendment protection against self-incriminating testimony no longer applies.

A pardon is much more effective if dangled over the recipient until the last days of the presidency.

That said, I agree that Donnie certainly is the type to promise a pardon and then renege on the deal....

[leftynyc]

2. He has given pardons already

So your first sentence is out of ignorance. He pardoned Arpaio, that clown D'Souza, those repulsive traitors out west that want to kill federal agents. 6 pardons, 3 commutations. Here's where you can get educated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

5. I stand corrected.

However, those pardons are not to people that Mueller has caught up with. Which is what I'm talking about.

I won't correct my original post, unless more people point this out.

[onecaliberal]

3. The convicted would lose their 5th amendment right and would have to talk.

It’s not good.

[NewJeffCT]

7. No they don't

They take the 5th again, get charged with obstruction of justice and Trump just pardons them again.

[onecaliberal]

9. There are state charges to be filed in that event. Guaranteed.

[NewJeffCT]

11. That will take time

and the person pardoned is free in the meantime.

[onecaliberal]

14. It's ready to do now.

[uponit7771]

4. 1. Trump has done such already for really screwed up reasons, 2. He's maniacal and enabled by ...

... traitors like Moscow Mitch and the rest of the Kremlin KKKlan, 3. Red Don is fuckin stupid

[Clash City Rocker]

6. NY state prosecutors are building a case against Manafort at the state level in case of a pardon

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-22/new-york-is-said-to-prep-manafort-charges-if-trump-pardons-him

A presidential pardon doesn’t exempt someone from prosecution at the state level.

[NewJeffCT]

8. Whitaker said to the House that he has seen the pardon paperwork

my guess is that Trump is waiting for the right time to do it - maybe after Barr puts the kibosh on Mueller?

[cbdo2007]

12. There were also rumors a few weeks ago that the Supreme Court

delivered notice to the White House that Trump cannot pardon people if he is listed as a co-conspirator in the case, which would explain why people have seen them yet none have gone through.

[NewJeffCT]

13. I hope you are correct

I had not heard those rumors

[cbdo2007]

15. They were around here for a day or so, and of course tons of people came out

and said they were fake, blah blah blah, but it does seem plausible. More likely than Trump NOT trying to pardon his buddies, and the reasoning makes sense and stuff. crossing fingers still lol.

[customerserviceguy]

10. I look to the history of pardons

already handed out by Trump. The Arpaio one particularly sticks out with me.

Trump does look at others as his lessers, but he does reward loyalty. His family will surely be getting pardons on his last day in office, and I figure that depending on what Flynn and Manifort have said, they will be getting them, too.

Cohen, on the other hand, will not.