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global1

(25,245 posts)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:42 AM Feb 2019

About Trump Winning The Election - I Say B.S. When You Hear Somebody Say.....

Last edited Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:01 PM - Edit history (1)

'Not even Triump's campaign thought they would ever win the election.'

We hear people saying that. We hear some Trump people saying that.

Yet everything the Trump people did was with the intention - from the beginning - to win the election. The paying off of McDougal and Stormy. All the Russian collusion stuff - soliciting dirt on Hillary; the Tower Meeting; his lying at his rallies; etc.

His whole campaign was coordinated to win the election. He was 'in it to win it'.

It's just an excuse for all the corrupt antics that they have pulled and continue to pull when they say - they didn't expect to win. It caught them by surprise. We're just not experienced with the ways of D.C. and the government and the constitution - because we really didn't set out to win.

BBBBBBBB SSSSSSSS

They knew exactly what they were doing from the start because the presidency gave Trump and his 'mob' the ability to destroy our crime fighting infrastructure and fleece the American People.

The 'mob' went from selling business owners protection - to running numbers - to alcohol selling during prohibition - to running drugs - to the traffic of women - to taking over the White House and getting away with anything they want because (as they say) you can't indict a president and he has the power of executive action and the pardon.

This is playing out like a Ian Fleming Bond novel. If Fleming crafted a story along this line - I wonder what he would title it? What would be the title of his book and ultimately the Bond movie?

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About Trump Winning The Election - I Say B.S. When You Hear Somebody Say..... (Original Post) global1 Feb 2019 OP
Do you think they planned an Electoral College win? empedocles Feb 2019 #1
I think that was the only way they could win Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #2
I agree with you Downtown Hound Feb 2019 #3
Trump didn't expect to win and few in his campaign expected it Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #4

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. Do you think they planned an Electoral College win?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:59 AM
Feb 2019

trump had a lot fewer votes won than Romney. The polls were fairly accurate.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
2. I think that was the only way they could win
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:24 PM
Feb 2019

All they had to do was purge a number of voters from minority communities, which they did via Crosscheck, and then switch a handful of votes on machines. Trump's margin of victory was less than 11,000 votes in Michigan. A few hundred votes changed here, a few hundred there, before long, it adds up enough for victory.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
3. I agree with you
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:25 PM
Feb 2019

Many people have forgotten Trump threatening that he might not accept the results of the election if he lost. He always planned to win, and he always knew there were forces working to make sure that he did.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
4. Trump didn't expect to win and few in his campaign expected it
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:27 PM
Feb 2019

I don't care what you call it. They lied and manipulated with help from Russia but the campaign has access to the same polls and indications we have. I remember there was a discovered memo from Russia indicating Hillary was likely to win, despite their efforts.

The mistakes were made here and on other Democratic sites. A 70% favorite is not much of a favorite. If elections were held every day or every week instead of once every 2 years, there would be countless examples of 70% favorites losing. The screams of fixed and vote switching would be worn out in a hurry, as people understood the results were merely falling within normal distribution. But because the outcomes are shown so infrequently, anything markedly above 50% is somehow considered a virtual cinch, and hence the frantic desperation to believe the underdog winner scammed everything perfectly and was chuckling in the background as the final numbers played out precisely as scripted.

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