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angrychair

(8,698 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 04:57 PM Feb 2019

Trump ranks last in Presidential Greatness Suevey

Just in time for Presidents’ Day, a survey of 170 presidential historians puts Trump in dead last place – behind even James Buchanan, whom many historians blame for failing to stop the Civil War.


For reference, president Lincoln ranked first. Trump last.

President Obama ranked in 8th place, which easily made him the highest ranked living president.

http://time.com/5165686/donald-trump-last-place-presidential-greatness/

My two cents: history is to kind: Reagan is given credit for what exactly? Iran-contra was one of the greatest criminal scandals in US history.

Bush Sr was the worst. Being a pivotal figure in both the Spiro Agnew scandal and Reagan scandal. Continuing to engage Agnew for advice all the way into the 80s, asking Agnew, a convicted and known criminal, for political advice. He Pardoned members of the Reagan's administration as well.
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Trump ranks last in Presidential Greatness Suevey (Original Post) angrychair Feb 2019 OP
President Obama outranked "St. Ronnie". calimary Feb 2019 #1
How is DJT 44th? Aren't 45 ranked? MiniMe Feb 2019 #2
Maybe Benjamin Harrison doesn't count (died immediately)? lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #3
Grover Cleveland aeromanKC Feb 2019 #5
Interesting. Thanks MiniMe Feb 2019 #7
Cleveland was president twice angrychair Feb 2019 #9
should've left him off the list entirely dweller Feb 2019 #4
Trump will view this as he is ranked #1. TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #6
He's the best at being the worst Poiuyt Feb 2019 #8
I think greatness is the wrong measure. Thomas Hurt Feb 2019 #10
I would like to see him confronted with this information publicly and see how he reacts to it. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #11
Fake News! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #12

calimary

(81,238 posts)
1. President Obama outranked "St. Ronnie".
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:12 PM
Feb 2019

Obama was Top-10, in 8th place. Reagan was 9th. And Bill Clinton outranked BOTH Bushes. Clinton was 13th. GHWB was 17th. The hapless dubya was in the lower half, at number 30. Frankly I’m surprised he even ranks that high.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
5. Grover Cleveland
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:05 PM
Feb 2019

Grover Cleveland was 22nd and 24th President this there have only been 44 presidents but 45 presidencies.

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
9. Cleveland was president twice
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 06:11 PM
Feb 2019

while Trump is officially the 45th president, Grover Cleveland’s was president twice in non-consecutive terms so the ranking runs from 1-44 as they are ranking people not terms in office

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. I would like to see him confronted with this information publicly and see how he reacts to it.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:17 PM
Feb 2019

I think it would be hilarious to watch him try to rip apart all the presidential historians in order to defend his belief in his own personal greatness. He'd be foaming at the mouth. He's such a fucking clown and most people who have a moderate degree of sanity and/or intelligence know it.

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