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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 11:31 PM Mar 2019

Need help debunking : RW Propaganda

Sorry to do this, but I get stuck on these things sometimes. I recently made the mistake of journeying over to the wasteland called Facebook to see what my friends were up to. I didn't think about all the right wing nut jobbery I would come across considering the inclinations of some of the people in my FB "friends". Anyway, someone posted something accusing President Obama of "blowing" the chance to take out Abu Bakr-Al Baghdadi. Call me silly, but these things dig at me if I can't find the facts to debunk them. Apparently the source for this drivel is a former drone pilot named Brett Velicovich who wrote a book called Drone Warrior where he argues how awesome drone strikes are and how any ethical concern about them is just ridiculous, no seriously. However, I can't find any article rebuking or even discussing his claim about President Obama. Getting the facts really helps my peace of mind. Has anyone heard of this guy?

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paleotn

(17,913 posts)
2. Mr. Velicovich might want to be careful.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 11:54 PM
Mar 2019

Much of what he saw on his screens and the mission details he was privy to while serving is classified. Secondly, there's a probability that Baghdadi may have been in a certain place at a certain time. Very rarely a certainty. Thirdly, what was the context? We're there significant numbers of non combatants in the area? What were the other risk factors or potential collateral damage that might have outweighed any positives? Fourthly, taking out one individual, no matter how senior, rarely stops a movement. It creates a temporary vacuum that nature abhors. Someone will fill it. Someone possibly even worse than Baghdadi. Trying to predict what would have happened from woulda, shoulda, coulda is foolish on its face.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
3. It looks like he wrote an article on Fux News about it. I'll link to it and hope I don't get alerted
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 11:59 PM
Mar 2019

I'm posting this in order to debunk it not spread propaganda. This is his article.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
4. If it's on Fox, I think you can safely assume it's nonsense.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 12:02 AM
Mar 2019

Plus, the article you originally linked pretty much writes the guy off as an unreliable narrator looking for attention. Ignore him and just write off the person who thinks he's a valid source.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
5. I pretty much knew thats what I should do, but I also have OCD and when I can't find the facts to
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 12:08 AM
Mar 2019

debunk some crap like this it digs at me. That's why I posted here about it in the first place.

 

GrannyW

(17 posts)
6. There are a million better things you can do with your time than waste it, energy, and brain cells
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:49 AM
Mar 2019

trying to change the "mind" of a trumpist.

They do not respond to reason or logic - hell, they do not even recognize facts and reality. What makes you think you will be able to make any headway penetrating the cult mind of every conjob out there?

Best to simply work to remove them and any influence they have over our lives.

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