Do you think Mueller and Barr have discussed the indictment of a President?

[kentuck]

Justice Department rules prohibit the President from being indicted. But it is only a rule, it is not a law.

Is it possible Mueller and Barr have discussed the indictment of Donald J Trump?

If they have not, both will have been very irresponsible and neglectful of the rule of law, in my opinion.

The ability of Republicans to rationalize everything that Trump does as "not illegal" is mind-boggling. They don't say that it is "legal", they say that it is "not illegal".

Somewhere deep within their chasm of denial, there must exist a small tinge of consciousness that whispers for them to do the right thing?

[empedocles]

1. I suspect Mueller has discussed indictment - very, very carefully.

[marylandblue]

2. It's not even a rule, it's a legal opinion, the AG is not bound by it.

I don't.think they will discuss it unless and until Mueller wants to indict the President, which will be at the very end.

[bluestarone]

5. At the very end, (if they did discuss it) would we ever know?

Would Mueller testify in the House, if it was discussed? I'm thinking, if he (Mueller) was asked under oath, this would come out.

[marylandblue]

6. If they don't indict him, they will both say they can't discuss it

Because of rules that say the DOJ doesn't discuss cases where no charges are filed.

[bluestarone]

7. TY

[bluestarone]

10. Sorry, one more thought here.

Let's say Mueller really really really wants to indict RUMP. Now Barr says NO, THEN Mueller STILL cannot testify in the House if asked too?

[marylandblue]

11. I think the rules say he can't, but there is a Watergate precedent

The grand jury wanted to indict Nixon but Jaworski refused. So the grand jury sent a report to the judge to send to Congress. DOJ rules are ambiguous as to whether a grand jury can actually issue it's own report, but I don't see how DOJ could stop a grand jury from petitioning a judge.

[bluestarone]

14. WOW huh?

I'm assuming that nothing changes even If He's (Mueller) Subpoenaed right? TY again.

[marylandblue]

16. I don't know what you mean by "nothing changes."

I am not sure how this works out really. I think we are in a slow motion constitutional crisis. There is no clear answer to what happens if a President just openly flouts the law while Congress does nothing.

[bluestarone]

17. Sorry. by my comment (nothing changes), i mean that Mueller STILL

Could not say that he himself really really wanted to indict BUT Barr refused, if subpoenaed by the house.

[marylandblue]

18. I don't know the answer, Congress is entitled to a lot of information

Might have to be in closed session though.

Now that I think about it, since the House has the power to impeach, they should have the implied power to get any information from the Executive branch that has bearing on the President's conduct. That would mean they get Mueller's report, which will list the decisions made to indict or not indict people.

[bluestarone]

19. Well now TY for that

New hope here!!!

[watoos]

3. Mueller and Barr have been friends for 30 years.

Just rumors now, but they are out there that Barr will work with Mueller.

[Iliyah]

4. I do not trust Barr.

[rockfordfile]

8. Same.

[randr]

9. I suspect Barr is a Trojan Horse

[marylandblue]

12. For who? Rosenstein recommended him.

Maybe it's Rosenstein's way of getting justice served.

[onenote]

13. no

[Power 2 the People]

15. I don't trust Barr or any other Republican but I try to be an optimist

Barr has been friends with Mueller for 30 years and respects him immensely. Mueller attended the weddings of two of Barr's daughters, and their wives attend Bible study together.

Barr was AG for George H.W. Bush and was strongly recommended by W. He donated to Jeb Bush's Presidential campaign in 2016.The Bush family despises Trump and H.W. even admitted to voting for Hillary Clinton over Trump. What better way to destroy Trump from the inside,than to put in a Bush loyalist at DOJ?

Could he be a Trojan horse who took advantage of Trump's stupidity and his staff's inexperience to get in a position of power to take down Agent Orange? It's a long shot but it's possible.