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From Walter Dellinger, a strong, smart suggestion re: Dem use of time in hearings. (Original Post) Grasswire2 Mar 2019 OP
many good comments follow. nt Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #1
Absolutely correct Stinky The Clown Mar 2019 #2
Best idea I've heard in a long long time. Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #3
And that attorney should be Sogo Mar 2019 #4
not likely -- too controversial and would distract. nt Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #5
Man I miss him. He could generate electricity like Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #6
Agreed. That's why Sogo Mar 2019 #7
Absolutely not. progressoid Mar 2019 #8
One positive: He already is the lightning rod of GOP ire, he could take some heat off of other Dems. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #13
So is AOC. She's a lightening rod because she's effective. rainin Mar 2019 #15
Why would you want her to take most of the heat? TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #17
All dems, especially leadership should be rallying around her right now. rainin Mar 2019 #21
Yes, but AOC should do the good work and Avanatti the dirtier work. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #22
Sounds good to me. rainin Mar 2019 #24
Great point. Plus he makes trump shake which I love Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #18
Oh, God, no. The guy is a huckster and a fraud The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #26
thread (4 tweets) Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #9
thanks Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #10
These are excellent points and furthermore it Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #19
YES. We need a BENEVOLENT SLEDGEHAMMER to break up the concrete of corruption. Not 24 wooden mallets BamaRefugee Mar 2019 #11
Thor. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #14
Preet! eleny Mar 2019 #12
YES!!! rainin Mar 2019 #16
I saw him recently on tv. He has incredible way Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #20
Eric Holder would be perfect! Cousin Dupree Mar 2019 #23
That would probably not be a popular thing with committee members. MineralMan Mar 2019 #25
I wouldn't be against that idea. awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #27
Dems had a cow when the GOPers brought in an attorney to question Kavanaugh The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #28

Stinky The Clown

(67,797 posts)
2. Absolutely correct
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 11:10 PM
Mar 2019

No one listens to speeches and gotchas. Just go right to facts and let the witnesses speak.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
4. And that attorney should be
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 12:01 AM
Mar 2019

Michael Avenatti.

He posted a series of excellent questions on Twitter prior to the Cohen hearing.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
21. All dems, especially leadership should be rallying around her right now.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 11:42 AM
Mar 2019

She is a lightening rod because she is so effective.

I worry when the republicans find a target, some dems retreat rather than fight. Our most effective leaders, especially, the women, are targeted the most. We must support our leaders, especially our freshmen women! AOC, for one, is a powerhouse. They are scared of her.

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
22. Yes, but AOC should do the good work and Avanatti the dirtier work.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 12:22 PM
Mar 2019

.

No one does the dirty work that can bog them down and lead them into a quagmire of animosity, when others can do it.

This way, it would keep AOC more pure and focused and remove some of the flak that the GOP can leverage against her.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
26. Oh, God, no. The guy is a huckster and a fraud
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:48 PM
Mar 2019

and he'll be lucky to keep his law license now that it's been discovered he was using his client trust accounts to pay off his ex and other creditors. Ick. He's the last person who should be representing Democrats.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,337 posts)
9. thread (4 tweets)
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:07 AM
Mar 2019
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1102301292217753601.html



1)The Test: If House Dems are serious about oversight of Trump, they will retain counsel to ask the first 2 hours of questions of each witness. Endless, uncoordinated 5 minute showoff rounds are not designed to find the truth.

2) If I said to a client: "My 2 hr. plan for examining the other side's key witness is to have 24 lawyers question her for 5 minutes each." That would be a former client. Even before I said they would not pay any attention to each other's questions or the answers..

3)Most Members of Congress do not have the time to prepare adequately and to be able to revise their questions to follow up on responses. Brandeis could not be effective in 5 minute rounds. Same questions are asked by Member after Member when serious issues need to be explored

4)The model is the Watergate Hearings where litigator and GT Law Prof Sam Dash questioned each witness for at least an hour before handing over the questioning to Sen Sam Ervin and his colleagues. Because Ervin cared about finding out what happened more than occupying TV Time.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. These are excellent points and furthermore it
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 11:17 AM
Mar 2019

Takes the "politics" out of it. Which adds legitimacy. I would guess that Cohen had lots more that could have been discovered with expert questioning. Sane with Kavenaugh hearing.

I suppose we let everyone, even the poor questioners, ask just to be fair. If they don't get an attorney they should at the very least select the best and at least give them 10 min each

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. I saw him recently on tv. He has incredible way
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 11:20 AM
Mar 2019

about him that is very appealing. I can tell he is very analytical and sees things from a unique perspective.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
25. That would probably not be a popular thing with committee members.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:37 PM
Mar 2019

Those hearings are important to them, since they provide a national audience, along with opportunities to create campaign-ad-worthy statements. That applies to both Democratic and Republican committee members.

Getting to the truth is only one of the goals of such hearings. The other goal is purely political. I don't like that, but it's how the whole thing works, really. It's a platform for the individuals on the committee, and they won't give up that platform willingly.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
27. I wouldn't be against that idea.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:49 PM
Mar 2019

Dems need to be really smart about it and leave the politics for a later round.

But Avenatti...nope. That would completely discredit/distract the whole thing in the eyes of independents and the rest of non-Dems.

Work with retired top prosecutors like Bharara and others to formulate the right incisive questions.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
28. Dems had a cow when the GOPers brought in an attorney to question Kavanaugh
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:09 PM
Mar 2019

at his confirmation hearing. There was a lot of breast-beating about how congresscritters should be doing their damn jobs and asking their own damn questions. How would this be different? I agree that congressional hearings are often just an opportunity for grandstanding, but maybe a better way to get around this problem would be for the Dem members of the committee to consult with counsel to arrive at good, incisive questions and then decide among themselves who would ask them, and in what order, so as to allow for follow-up questioning by someone else after the allotted time has expired. GOPers are going to grandstand anyhow.

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