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dalton99a

(81,468 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:20 AM Mar 2019

Russia wants to unplug its internet from the rest of the world.

https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-internet-20190304-story.html

Russia wants to unplug its internet from the rest of the world. Is that even possible?
By Sabra Ayres
Mar 04, 2019 | 5:00 AM | Moscow

Russian lawmakers want to tighten the screws on Russia’s internet access by creating an “sovereign” network that the Kremlin could shut off from the greater World Wide Web.

Proponents of a bill now working its way through the Russian parliament say passing the measure will protect the country’s internet from foreign cyberattacks or other threats.

But international human rights groups and opponents say the law is an attempt to create a firewall around Russia’s internet and restrict information flow. The law’s introduction has drawn comparisons to China’s restrictive Great Firewall. ...

Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2014 claimed the internet was created as a CIA project. (It was actually created by researchers at the U.S. Department of Defense.) It was the first time Putin hinted at the idea of building a purely Russian-run system to counter what the Kremlin sees as the West’s dominance in the cyber world.



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Russia wants to unplug its internet from the rest of the world. (Original Post) dalton99a Mar 2019 OP
Seems like that would promote a popular idea of blocking them from accessing the USA Dem2 Mar 2019 #1
I mean, obviously the Russian military/spies would have access to the regular Internet. NYC Liberal Mar 2019 #8
Sounds like an authoritarian move, doesn't it? PJMcK Mar 2019 #2
They know all the other countries are about to screw with their California_Republic Mar 2019 #23
Oh Sure! JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 #3
Maybe they want to protect their internet by isolating it from the rest of the world yonder Mar 2019 #4
How are they going to troll everyone then? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #5
Troll farms wouldn't shut down, hell they may be even more attractive places to work Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #19
Putin wants his Russia Back. Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #6
he wants to cut the people of Russia off from the rest of the world JI7 Mar 2019 #7
Vlad's been smoking the same stuff Trump has. Girard442 Mar 2019 #9
Like China? Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #20
lol but Russia already is a stagnant backwater... Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #28
The Russian mafia will bootleg it... Brother Buzz Mar 2019 #10
This is a tactic Putin is most familiar with DFW Mar 2019 #11
Yep. I am surprised he didn't do this long ago. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #12
It's probably not an easy thing to achieve technically DFW Mar 2019 #15
Putin is eveil enough to figure out a way. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #21
He is evil enough to ask for a feasibility study DFW Mar 2019 #22
Great, can they get out of our internet and stay out? Initech Mar 2019 #13
Seems like he is scared shitless as to retribution under a Democratic US President.And he should be. OnDoutside Mar 2019 #14
China already does this. hunter Mar 2019 #16
I hope he does do it. LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #17
Just another form of isolationism. MineralMan Mar 2019 #18
too late Demonaut Mar 2019 #24
Disturbing ck4829 Mar 2019 #25
Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #26
Like China. Kablooie Mar 2019 #27

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
1. Seems like that would promote a popular idea of blocking them from accessing the USA
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:22 AM
Mar 2019

Seems like a dumb idea for them, but what do I know...

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
8. I mean, obviously the Russian military/spies would have access to the regular Internet.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:50 AM
Mar 2019

This is to cut off the average citizen.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
2. Sounds like an authoritarian move, doesn't it?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:24 AM
Mar 2019

Could Trump do the same thing if he declares a national emergency over something?

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
3. Oh Sure!
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:25 AM
Mar 2019

So the next time they steal our elections, they will say they are on a “sovereign” network!

Hahahahhahahaahhahahah!

yonder

(9,664 posts)
4. Maybe they want to protect their internet by isolating it from the rest of the world
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:30 AM
Mar 2019

because they have developed some sort of insidious, self-replicating super virus that they are planning to use in a coordinated attack on the rest of the world??

Naaw, I say to myself as I take my tin foil hat back off.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
19. Troll farms wouldn't shut down, hell they may be even more attractive places to work
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:26 PM
Mar 2019

Since trolls would get to work on the "real" internet while the general public can only see the Russian one.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
9. Vlad's been smoking the same stuff Trump has.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:54 AM
Mar 2019

Such a move would turn Russia into a forgotten stagnant backwater.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
20. Like China?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:29 PM
Mar 2019

I'm betting he sees China's success and thinks he'd like to do a bit of what they're doing.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
11. This is a tactic Putin is most familiar with
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:39 AM
Mar 2019

He served in the KGB in the former East Germany. East Germany permitted day visitors to East Berlin (after an hour's wait, occasional interrogations and a forced exchange of West German money for their worthless East German marks).

Before you could enter their territory, you had to surrender any newspapers or magazines you had on you in ANY language. The East Germans couldn't stop western radio or TV, as there were antennae in West Berlin, but there weren't any video recorders available to the East German public in those days, and no one could have anything they could read again at home or pass around. At restaurants and cafés in East Berlin, it was illegal for more than four people to congregate together at one table. Not only did they make sure people had nothing to read from the west, if they heard anything, they were not allowed to discuss it in public.

This is classic Soviet strategy, just adjusted for today's technology.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
15. It's probably not an easy thing to achieve technically
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:55 AM
Mar 2019

Obviously he wants SOME access for SOME people, as his country is not an isolated entity economically or diplomatically, and his trouble-makers planted around the western world need secure communications with Savushinska Street, or wherever he's coordinating his mischief from these days. Selective access will necessarily be more complicated to program than a total cutoff from the rest of the world, and an accidental cutoff from world oil markets for (e.g.) Gazprom would be catastrophic for his economy. Picking and choosing whom to cut off in a country as vastly spread out s Russia won't be an easy thing to accomplish.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
22. He is evil enough to ask for a feasibility study
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:47 PM
Mar 2019

If it can be done, I'm sure he will get it done. How possible it is, I wouldn't have the slightest ides. My brother might, but if he did, he probably wouldn't be allowed to tell me, so I'd get nowhere asking him!

hunter

(38,311 posts)
16. China already does this.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:28 AM
Mar 2019

But their wall leaks like a sieve.

That may be a feature, not a bug. For an authoritarian state watching the leaks is interesting.

U.S. intelligence agencies attempt to watch everything. Finding interesting data in mounds of bullshit is not a trivial problem, no matter how many supercomputers you throw at it.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. Just another form of isolationism.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:50 AM
Mar 2019

It won't work. Russia is not self-sufficient. Data needs to come and go, because of that.

This is not a practical possibility in today's world.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
27. Like China.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:38 AM
Mar 2019

But Chinese can still use a VPN to get out to the rest of the world if they want to.
And they have to communicate too do business with other countries.
I have a friend in China who I'm able to keep in touch with on Facebook through her VPN.

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