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The online drama over Captain Marvel continues with a recent pair of tweets from James Woods, with the Videodrome star accusing Marvel Studios of hating half its audience.
The first post was in response to a message from a Twitter user telling white men haters that theyre not welcome at cinemas for Captain Marvel, to which Woods responded:
Okay. We will be happy to sit this one out then
The 71-year-old actor then followed up his tweet with a distracted boyfriend meme where the man is checking out Alita: Battle Angel and ignoring Captain Marvel, adding the following comment:
When you have a choice, pick a movie where the studio doesnt hate half its audience
Just last month, Woods drew criticism over a tweet making similar remarks about The Walking Dead, referring to the show as an all-chick zombie series and an estrogen fest.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/james-woods-slams-captain-marvel-says-marvel-studios-hates-half-audience/amp/
TexasTowelie
(112,592 posts)Unfortunately, for him it is in his past rather than his future.
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...if anyone ever makes a movie about the current administration.
sdfernando
(4,947 posts)I want to see movies with GOOD and GREAT actors. Not washed out shitheads.
skypilot
(8,854 posts)...is (hopefully) a soon-to-be washed out shithead. He can be played by one.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,846 posts)Being the ULTIMATE CHICK flick that the Box Office was generated by women seeing it time after time in the theaters?
Baconator
(1,459 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,239 posts).
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John Fante
(3,479 posts)this much money. If he comes off as a bitter fuck, it's because he is.
Archae
(46,365 posts)He voiced Hades, lord of the dead, the bad guy.
Like most Disney animated movies, it made a lot of money.
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:32 PM - Edit history (1)
BTW, does Woods have an Oscar? Brie Larson sure as hell does.
Asking for a friend.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)tazkcmo
(7,304 posts)allgood33
(1,584 posts)hatrack
(59,597 posts)But just wait until next week! I sense another rant coming!!
Takket
(21,662 posts)Could ever amount to anything?
jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)Why is Alita: Battle Angel ok among the misogynist conservative assholes and Captain Marvel isn't? Does one cross some sort of yeah Jesus gender stereotype the other doesn't?
Bettie
(16,139 posts)Excerpts:
Captain Marvel is a big deal for many reasons. For one thing, its the first female-led film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a feat that has only taken them a decade or so to achieve. Its their first woman directed picture too (Anna Boden shares duties with her collaborator Ryan Fleck), and three of the four credited screenwriters are women. Oscar winner Brie Larson will play one of Marvel Comicss leading heroines, primarily influenced by the iteration written by Kelly Sue DeConnick. A week ahead of release, tracking for its opening had increased to $100 - 160 million. According to Fandango, the movie has garnered the third largest advanced ticket sales of any film in the MCU. Make no mistake, this film is a Big F*cking Deal.
It is not, as its most virulent opposition insists, a flop in waiting, nor is it a declaration of war against men. Driven in part by malice against Larsons support for diversifying the pool of critics and journalists covering the movie, the usual suspects have decided that Captain Marvel is the biggest threat to masculinity in pop culture since The Last Jedi let Leia use the force Mary Poppins style. Its not worth giving this crowd the benefit of the doubt. Weve seen this playbook many times before and how violently it effects women and people of colour at the centre of it. These creeps most baffling defence is that this has nothing to do with misogyny. They dont hate women: They just think this one particular woman has gone too far.
Now, to fuel that lie further, the same people whose review bombing of the movie led to Rotten Tomatoes changing their site have latched onto a new shield. To the surprise of basically everyone, their new hero has become the Robert Rodriguez film Alita: Battle Angel. The adaptation of the classic manga and anime has made $72.2 million domestically from an estimated $170 million budget, but overall has grossed around $350.4 million. Its not exactly a flop but given the cost of the project and the obvious franchise hopes Fox had resting on its shoulders, its not a soaring success either. Reviews have been mixed, with some notable fans including Matt Zoller Seitz. Theres really not all that much malice towards the film or a great divide in the rhetoric surrounding it. Some people loved it, others hated it, but mostly it was just fine. Plenty of blockbusters have faced this fate and they present interesting case studies for the future of big-budget film-making in an expanded universe age. What the film isnt, however, is a battering ram to launch against other female-led blockbusters.
(Snip)
But the men of Alita: Battle Angel arent why these guys are suddenly so desperate to elevate this film to new heights. Their interest lies with Alita herself, a cyborg with incomprehensibly mighty powers who also hopelessly naïve. Shes kickass but still needs a boy to teach her all about life. The Born Sexy Yesterday trope is all over the film, although it is remarkably less fetishistic than this narrative could have been. Still, there is a scene where she heals herself and suddenly grows bigger boobs, and boy does the camera want you to know that happened.
Entire article here: http://www.pajiba.com/film_reviews/why-are-sexist-creeps-pitting-captain-marvel-against-alita-battle-angel.php
jcgoldie
(11,656 posts)Very enlightening!
JHB
(37,163 posts)Alita is basically its own thing, and stays pretty faithful to its source material, which was one of the first Japanese manga (comics) to be translated and sold commercially in the US in the 90s.
Captain Marvel, on the other hand, is shaping up to be a showcase character of what's known as the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), i.e., the series of movies that are interconnected some way. It's now over 10 years old, and the current stars (Chris Evans as Captain America, Robert Downey Junior as Tony Stark/Iron Man, etc.) are aging out and don't want to be doing this for the rest of their lives.
For those wallowing in "the girls are taking all our cool stuff" caves of the internet, it fits neatly into the narrative. Plus star Brie Larson isn't a CGI character, and they're front-loaded to take anything she says as a personal offense.
With the two movies coming out with about a month's spacing, it artificially set up a good strong female lead/bad strong female lead dynamic, at least for the "pathetic dink" set who want to take offense.
I'm inclined to think that if it weren't for the juxtaposition, they'd be slagging Alita too, on predictably dopey grounds. ("In the original manga she had bigger...." ).
I plan on catching the movie again before it leaves the theaters. I'm not remembering the " boy does the camera want you to know that happened" bit, at least not so dramatically. She starts out the movie with an artificial body that had been built for a child, that gets damaged, and she switches to a much more advanced artificial body that can shape itself more to her self image, which isn't a child. It's an athlete's body, not a pin-up girl.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)at one of the press briefings did not help matters.
Also charitable giving of tickets to girls by various organizations may seem nice, but I cringe some at putting money into the mouse's pocket.
I am excited to see the movie. I know quite about the original Captain Mar-Vell (the Kree soldier). Not so much about Carol Danvers except what Rogue does to her.
Gothmog
(145,776 posts)The fact that this idiot is unhappy makes me smile
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)just because of Woods
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Gothmog
(145,776 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)Aristus
(66,494 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)FakeNoose
(32,849 posts)... but that was long before anybody knew about his sick-o conservative politics. I haven't seen any of his movies for at least 20 years, maybe longer.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)or, is he one of those people that was changed by 9/11 like Dennis Miller?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)They're actually a small minority and growing smaller. Shrinking, you know?
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)maxsolomon
(33,440 posts)There lies the rub.
EXCEPT: there is also a long-running character, Carol Danvers, that is closely associated with Captain Marvel.
Marvel's taken the 2 (frankly 2nd-tier) characters and melded them. Captain Marvel = Carol Danvers now.
Speaking as a man who collected Marvel comics in the 70s when I was a kid (Dr. Strange mainly), I could give a flying fuck.
It's little MRA culture-warrior ballsacks like Woods can't handle it.
RandySF
(59,564 posts)maxsolomon
(33,440 posts)Jude Law plays the OG Cpt. Mar-vell?
JHB
(37,163 posts)She disappeared for a while for an assortment of comic-book reasons, then got restored as Ms. Marvel and joined the Avengers.
Sometime in the past few years she dropped the Ms. and took up Marv's title of Captain (which also allowed a new character to adopt the name Ms. Marvel, Kamala Kahn, from an immigrant muslim family. The dink-set complaining about the movie took that about the same way).
maxsolomon
(33,440 posts)There's no reason to make Capt. Marvel a man, then.
Plenty of reason$$$ to use this character as currently constituted.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Now I want to go see it!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Between Citizen Cohn and Once Upon a Time in America, I'd place him in (and keep him in) the A-List of actors who give performances so far beyond what I would ever expect from them.
That said, his personal politics and the seemingly hateful person he's become has really solidified my position that "one should ALWAYS separate the art from the artist, else disappointment comes far more quickly than enchantment."
I think I'll see Captain Marvel at the theaters twice... the first time for me, the second time as a middle finger to the sub-literate idiots who believe straight, white males are the only Hollywood leads worth seeing clothed.
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)has, and is, one of the biggest dicks in the industry. The former no doubt contributes to the latter. He thinks he's really special and an example of "true" masculinity. He's insufferable.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)but at least - lucky for us - he IS an export! RI accepts no blame for making him what he is.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Response to RandySF (Original post)
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