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RandySF

(59,564 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:38 AM Mar 2019

RWNJ James Woods goes on a rant over Captain Marvel movie

The online drama over Captain Marvel continues with a recent pair of tweets from James Woods, with the Videodrome star accusing Marvel Studios of hating half its audience.

The first post was in response to a message from a Twitter user telling “white men haters” that they’re “not welcome at cinemas for Captain Marvel,” to which Woods responded:

“Okay. We will be happy to sit this one out then…”

The 71-year-old actor then followed up his tweet with a “distracted boyfriend” meme where the man is checking out Alita: Battle Angel and ignoring Captain Marvel, adding the following comment:

“When you have a choice, pick a movie where the studio doesn’t hate half its audience…”

Just last month, Woods drew criticism over a tweet making similar remarks about The Walking Dead, referring to the show as an “all-chick zombie series” and an “estrogen fest.”



https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/james-woods-slams-captain-marvel-says-marvel-studios-hates-half-audience/amp/

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RWNJ James Woods goes on a rant over Captain Marvel movie (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2019 OP
James Woods is looking for his last 15 minutes of relevance. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #1
He could always play Roger Stone... skypilot Mar 2019 #31
Hell NO sdfernando Mar 2019 #38
Roger Stone... skypilot Mar 2019 #39
I wonder what James Woods thinks about GLADIATOR.... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2019 #2
I didn't know that... Baconator Mar 2019 #9
I can relate to that! lunatica Mar 2019 #29
Irrelevant codger. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #3
James Woods NEVER got top billing in a film that generated John Fante Mar 2019 #4
He was in a Disney film, "Hercules." Archae Mar 2019 #6
Gotta say, He nailed his part in blow. Old Vet Mar 2019 #8
In Casino, as well. WillowTree Mar 2019 #20
He did well in that tiny role. John Fante Mar 2019 #47
He was in "Blow"? John Fante Mar 2019 #23
Not top billing, and it didn't make as much money as this film. John Fante Mar 2019 #22
Bless his heart. N/T tazkcmo Mar 2019 #5
Why does he hate himself so much? nt allgood33 Mar 2019 #7
RWNJ James Woods goes on a rant over (insert your pan-flashing distraction here) hatrack Mar 2019 #10
Is it so hard to believe that someone besides a white man Takket Mar 2019 #11
jeez... 912gdm Mar 2019 #12
SO I don't follow comic book characters... jcgoldie Mar 2019 #13
Article here...explains it pretty well Bettie Mar 2019 #15
Thanks Bettie! jcgoldie Mar 2019 #16
I think there's another aspect to it too... JHB Mar 2019 #18
Brie Larson doing the quota count regarding the reporters exboyfil Mar 2019 #35
I am looking forward to the Captain Marvel movie Gothmog Mar 2019 #14
I might go to see it an extra time now NewJeffCT Mar 2019 #26
Same here! nt DesertRat Mar 2019 #46
We have tickets for Saturday night showing Gothmog Mar 2019 #48
meh. his ship has long sailed and he is now yelling at the sea. nt Javaman Mar 2019 #17
I love the fact that the article referenced his role in a movie from nearly forty years ago. Aristus Mar 2019 #19
Can we get "Salvador" James Woods back already? Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #21
I liked him in Against All Odds, even before Salvador FakeNoose Mar 2019 #24
was he always a RW nutjob NewJeffCT Mar 2019 #27
I wonder why Woods think he and his incel pals constitute half the population? gratuitous Mar 2019 #25
They're shrinking in more than one way TheRealNorth Mar 2019 #34
If I understand this character correctly, Captain Marvel is originally a man. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #28
The title was passed down from Mar-Vell to Carol Danvers RandySF Mar 2019 #30
Oh, OK. I guess that's what happens in the movie. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #37
Carol Danvers got powers back in the late 70s, went by Ms. Marvel... JHB Mar 2019 #40
"Dink-set", good one. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #42
Well he just shot the movie's popularity sky high! lunatica Mar 2019 #32
I'm a fan of his work. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #33
It is well known in Hollywood that Woods RedSpartan Mar 2019 #36
James Woods is Rhode Island's worst export Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #41
is the high school on Family Guy still named for him? crazycatlady Mar 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2019 #44
James Woods is an a-hole. n/t jcmaine72 Mar 2019 #45

TexasTowelie

(112,592 posts)
1. James Woods is looking for his last 15 minutes of relevance.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:46 AM
Mar 2019

Unfortunately, for him it is in his past rather than his future.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,846 posts)
2. I wonder what James Woods thinks about GLADIATOR....
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:46 AM
Mar 2019

Being the ULTIMATE CHICK flick that the Box Office was generated by women seeing it time after time in the theaters?

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
4. James Woods NEVER got top billing in a film that generated
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:37 AM
Mar 2019

this much money. If he comes off as a bitter fuck, it's because he is.

Archae

(46,365 posts)
6. He was in a Disney film, "Hercules."
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 06:13 AM
Mar 2019

He voiced Hades, lord of the dead, the bad guy.

Like most Disney animated movies, it made a lot of money.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
47. He did well in that tiny role.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 06:56 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:32 PM - Edit history (1)

BTW, does Woods have an Oscar? Brie Larson sure as hell does.

Asking for a friend.

hatrack

(59,597 posts)
10. RWNJ James Woods goes on a rant over (insert your pan-flashing distraction here)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 07:24 AM
Mar 2019

But just wait until next week! I sense another rant coming!!

jcgoldie

(11,656 posts)
13. SO I don't follow comic book characters...
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:14 AM
Mar 2019

Why is Alita: Battle Angel ok among the misogynist conservative assholes and Captain Marvel isn't? Does one cross some sort of yeah Jesus gender stereotype the other doesn't?

Bettie

(16,139 posts)
15. Article here...explains it pretty well
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:58 AM
Mar 2019

Excerpts:

Captain Marvel is a big deal for many reasons. For one thing, it’s the first female-led film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a feat that has only taken them a decade or so to achieve. It’s their first woman directed picture too (Anna Boden shares duties with her collaborator Ryan Fleck), and three of the four credited screenwriters are women. Oscar winner Brie Larson will play one of Marvel Comics’s leading heroines, primarily influenced by the iteration written by Kelly Sue DeConnick. A week ahead of release, tracking for its opening had increased to $100 - 160 million. According to Fandango, the movie has garnered the third largest advanced ticket sales of any film in the MCU. Make no mistake, this film is a Big F*cking Deal.

It is not, as its most virulent opposition insists, a flop in waiting, nor is it a declaration of war against men. Driven in part by malice against Larson’s support for diversifying the pool of critics and journalists covering the movie, the usual suspects have decided that Captain Marvel is the biggest threat to masculinity in pop culture since The Last Jedi let Leia use the force Mary Poppins style. It’s not worth giving this crowd the benefit of the doubt. We’ve seen this playbook many times before and how violently it effects women and people of colour at the centre of it. These creeps’ most baffling defence is that this has nothing to do with misogyny. They don’t hate women: They just think this one particular woman has ‘gone too far’.

Now, to fuel that lie further, the same people whose review bombing of the movie led to Rotten Tomatoes changing their site have latched onto a new shield. To the surprise of basically everyone, their new hero has become the Robert Rodriguez film Alita: Battle Angel. The adaptation of the classic manga and anime has made $72.2 million domestically from an estimated $170 million budget, but overall has grossed around $350.4 million. It’s not exactly a flop but given the cost of the project and the obvious franchise hopes Fox had resting on its shoulders, it’s not a soaring success either. Reviews have been mixed, with some notable fans including Matt Zoller Seitz. There’s really not all that much malice towards the film or a great divide in the rhetoric surrounding it. Some people loved it, others hated it, but mostly it was just fine. Plenty of blockbusters have faced this fate and they present interesting case studies for the future of big-budget film-making in an expanded universe age. What the film isn’t, however, is a battering ram to launch against other female-led blockbusters.

(Snip)
But the men of Alita: Battle Angel aren’t why these guys are suddenly so desperate to elevate this film to new heights. Their interest lies with Alita herself, a cyborg with incomprehensibly mighty powers who also hopelessly naïve. She’s kickass but still needs a boy to teach her all about life. The Born Sexy Yesterday trope is all over the film, although it is remarkably less fetishistic than this narrative could have been. Still, there is a scene where she heals herself and suddenly grows bigger boobs, and boy does the camera want you to know that happened.

Entire article here: http://www.pajiba.com/film_reviews/why-are-sexist-creeps-pitting-captain-marvel-against-alita-battle-angel.php

JHB

(37,163 posts)
18. I think there's another aspect to it too...
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:37 AM
Mar 2019

Alita is basically its own thing, and stays pretty faithful to its source material, which was one of the first Japanese manga (comics) to be translated and sold commercially in the US in the 90s.

Captain Marvel, on the other hand, is shaping up to be a showcase character of what's known as the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), i.e., the series of movies that are interconnected some way. It's now over 10 years old, and the current stars (Chris Evans as Captain America, Robert Downey Junior as Tony Stark/Iron Man, etc.) are aging out and don't want to be doing this for the rest of their lives.

For those wallowing in "the girls are taking all our cool stuff" caves of the internet, it fits neatly into the narrative. Plus star Brie Larson isn't a CGI character, and they're front-loaded to take anything she says as a personal offense.

With the two movies coming out with about a month's spacing, it artificially set up a good strong female lead/bad strong female lead dynamic, at least for the "pathetic dink" set who want to take offense.

I'm inclined to think that if it weren't for the juxtaposition, they'd be slagging Alita too, on predictably dopey grounds. ("In the original manga she had bigger...." ).

I plan on catching the movie again before it leaves the theaters. I'm not remembering the " boy does the camera want you to know that happened" bit, at least not so dramatically. She starts out the movie with an artificial body that had been built for a child, that gets damaged, and she switches to a much more advanced artificial body that can shape itself more to her self image, which isn't a child. It's an athlete's body, not a pin-up girl.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
35. Brie Larson doing the quota count regarding the reporters
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:15 PM
Mar 2019

at one of the press briefings did not help matters.

Also charitable giving of tickets to girls by various organizations may seem nice, but I cringe some at putting money into the mouse's pocket.

I am excited to see the movie. I know quite about the original Captain Mar-Vell (the Kree soldier). Not so much about Carol Danvers except what Rogue does to her.

Gothmog

(145,776 posts)
14. I am looking forward to the Captain Marvel movie
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:44 AM
Mar 2019

The fact that this idiot is unhappy makes me smile

FakeNoose

(32,849 posts)
24. I liked him in Against All Odds, even before Salvador
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:56 PM
Mar 2019

... but that was long before anybody knew about his sick-o conservative politics. I haven't seen any of his movies for at least 20 years, maybe longer.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
27. was he always a RW nutjob
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

or, is he one of those people that was changed by 9/11 like Dennis Miller?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. I wonder why Woods think he and his incel pals constitute half the population?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:01 PM
Mar 2019

They're actually a small minority and growing smaller. Shrinking, you know?

maxsolomon

(33,440 posts)
28. If I understand this character correctly, Captain Marvel is originally a man.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

There lies the rub.

EXCEPT: there is also a long-running character, Carol Danvers, that is closely associated with Captain Marvel.

Marvel's taken the 2 (frankly 2nd-tier) characters and melded them. Captain Marvel = Carol Danvers now.

Speaking as a man who collected Marvel comics in the 70s when I was a kid (Dr. Strange mainly), I could give a flying fuck.

It's little MRA culture-warrior ballsacks like Woods can't handle it.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
40. Carol Danvers got powers back in the late 70s, went by Ms. Marvel...
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:29 PM
Mar 2019

She disappeared for a while for an assortment of comic-book reasons, then got restored as Ms. Marvel and joined the Avengers.

Sometime in the past few years she dropped the Ms. and took up Marv's title of Captain (which also allowed a new character to adopt the name Ms. Marvel, Kamala Kahn, from an immigrant muslim family. The dink-set complaining about the movie took that about the same way).

maxsolomon

(33,440 posts)
42. "Dink-set", good one.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:51 PM
Mar 2019

There's no reason to make Capt. Marvel a man, then.

Plenty of reason$$$ to use this character as currently constituted.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. I'm a fan of his work.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:14 PM
Mar 2019

Between Citizen Cohn and Once Upon a Time in America, I'd place him in (and keep him in) the A-List of actors who give performances so far beyond what I would ever expect from them.

That said, his personal politics and the seemingly hateful person he's become has really solidified my position that "one should ALWAYS separate the art from the artist, else disappointment comes far more quickly than enchantment."

I think I'll see Captain Marvel at the theaters twice... the first time for me, the second time as a middle finger to the sub-literate idiots who believe straight, white males are the only Hollywood leads worth seeing clothed.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
36. It is well known in Hollywood that Woods
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:15 PM
Mar 2019

has, and is, one of the biggest dicks in the industry. The former no doubt contributes to the latter. He thinks he's really special and an example of "true" masculinity. He's insufferable.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
41. James Woods is Rhode Island's worst export
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:35 PM
Mar 2019

but at least - lucky for us - he IS an export! RI accepts no blame for making him what he is.

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