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Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:21 PM Mar 2019

I received one of those dreaded phone calls, today. I lost my cousin to Bi-Polar Depression

It caused him to lose his marriage, his job, and now his life. I'm still processing the news. I also lost my older brother to depression, so an old wound is ripped wide open. And I just finished updating all of the family here in Michigan, breaking more hearts with every contact.

His doctor was so concerned about his emotional state that she sent him to the ER, to get an in patient admission. The admission was refused. They just didn't think he met the criteria. I don't know why the doctor didn't intervene. That can likely be added to a growing list of unanswered questions.

If I can ask for kind thoughts for his sister and brothers. Their father is in care, suffering from Alzheimer's, so it's not as if they don't already have a lot to deal with.

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I received one of those dreaded phone calls, today. I lost my cousin to Bi-Polar Depression (Original Post) Siwsan Mar 2019 OP
Holding you and your family in the Light. TygrBright Mar 2019 #1
I'm so sorry for your loss. n/t area51 Mar 2019 #2
I am so sorry to read this news. badhair77 Mar 2019 #3
Best wishes for you and family. safeinOhio Mar 2019 #4
Condolences and healing thoughts during this difficult time FakeNoose Mar 2019 #5
I am so sorry for your loss Siwsan. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #6
What a horrible, terrible day... Kittycow Mar 2019 #7
I'm so sorry for your loss. RainCaster Mar 2019 #8
may you and your family find peace in good memories Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #9
Hugs to your entire family. lunatica Mar 2019 #10
Deepest sympathy. Wishing his soul well. Karadeniz Mar 2019 #11
Condolences on your loss. gademocrat7 Mar 2019 #12
This is so sad malaise Mar 2019 #13
I'm sorry for the loss of your cousin. I had something similar happen to my uncle. Peace. jalan48 Mar 2019 #14
Peace and Love to you. 🕊 LakeArenal Mar 2019 #15
So sorry. This is so hard for you I'm sure. Everyone's worst nightmare. Hang in there -- KPN Mar 2019 #16
My condolences. It's very difficult to help a person with mental illness. Kaleva Mar 2019 #17
My Dad died of a coronary 6 hrs after being refused at ER because he also didn't "fit" . flying_wahini Mar 2019 #18
I am so very sorry. I'm a retired therapist. nolabear Mar 2019 #19
That's awful IncaRoads Mar 2019 #20
My sympathies... I've lost several good friends to Bi-Polar Depression. Raster Mar 2019 #21
It makes me sad and angry at the same time. LisaM Mar 2019 #22
Condolences on the loss of your cousin..... CatMor Mar 2019 #23
So sorry. My brother committed suicide because his docs wouldn't give him any pain meds. OMGWTF Mar 2019 #24
I am so sorry get the red out Mar 2019 #25
My husband has it. greymattermom Mar 2019 #26
Very sad, and to think he sought help and was turned away. Hugs to you and your family. Fla Dem Mar 2019 #27
So sorry to hear this duforsure Mar 2019 #28
Have lost one family member and another one is perilously close to ending her life elfin Mar 2019 #29
Sorry for your family's loss ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #30
I feel very much for you. Takket Mar 2019 #31
People get to be really good at talking themselves out of the Emergency Room ... hunter Mar 2019 #32
I'm so sorry. That's heartbreaking. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #33
I am so so sorry irisblue Mar 2019 #34
I am so sorry for the loss to you and the rest of the family. wendyb-NC Mar 2019 #35
For all who suffer his loss, may they find peace. Stinky The Clown Mar 2019 #36
I'm so sorry. spooky3 Mar 2019 #37
Kind thoughts for you and your family cp Mar 2019 #38
So very sorry. hostalover Mar 2019 #39
I'm very sorry for your loss NewJeffCT Mar 2019 #40
Oh, I'm so very, very sorry. catbyte Mar 2019 #41
I Have a Son With Bi-polar Disorder and Can Relate To Your Pain dlk Mar 2019 #42
my thoughts are with you and your family. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #43
I'm so sorry easttexaslefty Mar 2019 #44
I am so very, very sorry! My family has GreenPartyVoter Mar 2019 #45
Sincere and deepest condolences to you and your family. monmouth4 Mar 2019 #46

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
1. Holding you and your family in the Light.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:29 PM
Mar 2019

It runs in my family, too.

The pain is just awful.

Hang in there, take it one day at a time.

sadly,
Bright

badhair77

(4,217 posts)
3. I am so sorry to read this news.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:30 PM
Mar 2019

My sympathy to you and your family. I hope you all can find a way to find some peace in this loss.

This country needs to start an initiative to provide mental health services to our people. There is no reason we could not assist in training physicians and other mental health care providers and facilities. We spend our money on ridiculous things, that money could be better spent in services.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
5. Condolences and healing thoughts during this difficult time
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:39 PM
Mar 2019

I'm very sorry for your loss! Condolences to your family.





 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. I am so sorry for your loss Siwsan.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:42 PM
Mar 2019

Depression is such a tragic thing, you always want to think that there is something you could have done to save them. It's just heartbreaking to lose someone that way.

It's so wrong the ER wouldn't admit him, it could have saved his life.

Wishing you and his family kind thoughts.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
7. What a horrible, terrible day...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:59 PM
Mar 2019

I know that there's a whole bunch of tough days to follow, but the first day is always so bad, especially if you're the one who has to make all the phone calls.

My deepest condolences to you and your family

KPN

(15,643 posts)
16. So sorry. This is so hard for you I'm sure. Everyone's worst nightmare. Hang in there --
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:30 PM
Mar 2019

you will all get through it. Peace.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
17. My condolences. It's very difficult to help a person with mental illness.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:33 PM
Mar 2019

My wife has suffered from it for years and right now she's up in our bed in a bad state. I won't go anywhere today.

Based on my experience, a patient will be admitted if he or she states that they are thinking of harming themselves and/or others. Your cousin may have aid he was okay.

flying_wahini

(6,591 posts)
18. My Dad died of a coronary 6 hrs after being refused at ER because he also didn't "fit" .
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:43 PM
Mar 2019

I feel your pain! Sometimes you have to park your ass in the ER and not leave when it is that bad. His case was a bit different, but not really. He left and he died.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
19. I am so very sorry. I'm a retired therapist.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:44 PM
Mar 2019

Some of the finest and most courageous people I worked with had Bipolar I. It’s hard to understand if you haven’t had it or lots of experience with it. Everyone I know has lost, or nearly lost, patients.

I hope you and your family find some peace somehow. It’s no reflection on any person. It’s terrible, uncontrollable chemistry. ❤️

IncaRoads

(97 posts)
20. That's awful
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:47 PM
Mar 2019

My mom and I went through the same thing 3 years ago this month (crazy how time flies).

Do what you need to do to take care of yourself and these things tend to get easier over time.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
22. It makes me sad and angry at the same time.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:58 PM
Mar 2019

I'm sorry for your pain, and I'm angry that a flat-out call for help was ignored.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
23. Condolences on the loss of your cousin.....
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:58 PM
Mar 2019

I know how difficult it is to lose a loved one in this manner. Sometimes it's hard to believe and understand why these things happen in life. Hopefully time will heal the wounds of this loss and the memory of him will be with you always.

OMGWTF

(3,955 posts)
24. So sorry. My brother committed suicide because his docs wouldn't give him any pain meds.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:04 PM
Mar 2019

He'd shattered his knee and broken his back twice. Hs pain was being managed but then he got 100% cut-off due to a crack-down on prescribing opiods. He went through opioid withdrawal alone and killed himself with TWO guns to his head because he couldn't take the pain and no one would help him. Our society is so very deeply fked-up.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
25. I am so sorry
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:05 PM
Mar 2019

I have had security called on me for trying to get a bi-polar loved one admitted when they were refused and I felt their life was at risk. I got lucky and they lived and I got them admitted somewhere else, (when I hysterically broke into tears and I am sure they wondered if they should admit him or me at that point).

I suffer from depression myself, I've seen both sides of the despair

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
26. My husband has it.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:08 PM
Mar 2019

I couldn't care for him, so he's in assisted living. I feel guilty every day, but I knew that I wasn't able to cope with it. I've already lost my grandmother and a cousin to it. In my grandmother's obituary, it says that she died of pneumonia.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. So sorry to hear this
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:09 PM
Mar 2019

And having people will mental illness in the family, I know how hard it can be. I'm thinking about you and your family.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
29. Have lost one family member and another one is perilously close to ending her life
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:13 PM
Mar 2019

This is such a struggle and I am so sorry it has touched your life in such a devastating way.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
31. I feel very much for you.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:13 PM
Mar 2019

This hits close to home. My wife is bipolar and because of it she very nearly both divorced me and committed suicide. She is treated now and the disease is managed but I know first hand what a vicious and deadly disease this is, yet also very stigmatized and deligitimized by the public which makes it even harder to treat.

It sounds Like the case was mishandled at the hospital. When all the mourning passes I would seriously consider a lawyer.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
32. People get to be really good at talking themselves out of the Emergency Room ...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:16 PM
Mar 2019

... convincing themselves, as well as medical professionals, they're not as bad as all that.

I've done it, and returned to the E.R. in such a bad state that it's clear to everyone that I'm not okay.



You have my kind thoughts, for you and your family.




Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. I'm so sorry. That's heartbreaking.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:24 PM
Mar 2019

I wonder where the dividing line is with depression, from "the blues" to depression so severe that it's life-stunting? Bi-polar means a person goes from a manic state to deep depression? I first learned about this when Patty Duke talked about her diagnosis. For years she didn't know that anything was wrong with her, and then she wondered why she behaved the extreme way she did sometimes. Until she was finally diagnosed, and that changed her life. I guess there were meds? I don't know.

Anyway, I'm so sorry.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
41. Oh, I'm so very, very sorry.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 04:03 PM
Mar 2019

Depression is so soul-sapping, and it's disgraceful how ignored it is here in the U.S. Again, I'm very sorry.

dlk

(11,561 posts)
42. I Have a Son With Bi-polar Disorder and Can Relate To Your Pain
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

I’m so very sorry for your loss.

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