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TeamPooka

(24,262 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:19 PM Mar 2019

Democratic National Committee rejects Fox News for debates

Democratic National Committee rejects Fox News for debates, citing New Yorker article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/democratic-national-committee-rejects-fox-news-for-debates-citing-new-yorker-article/2019/03/06/a0bdf55c-402e-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html?utm_term=.ee9b2c860ff8

The Democratic National Committee has decided to exclude Fox News Channel from televising any of its candidate debates during the 2019-2020 cycle as a result of published revelations detailing the cable network’s close ties to the Trump administration.

In a statement Wednesday, DNC Chairman Tom Perez cited a story in the New Yorker magazine this week that detailed how Fox has promoted President Trump’s agenda. The article, entitled “The Making of the Fox News White House,” suggested that the news network had become a propaganda vehicle for Trump.

“I believe that a key pathway to victory is to continue to expand our electorate and reach all voters,” said Perez in his statement to The Washington Post. “That is why I have made it a priority to talk to a broad array of potential media partners, including Fox News. Recent reporting in the New Yorker on the inappropriate relationship between President Trump, his administration and Fox News has led me to conclude that the network is not in a position to host a fair and neutral debate for our candidates. Therefore, Fox News will not serve as a media partner for the 2020 Democratic primary debates.”

Winning the exclusive rights to televise the 12 candidate debates is considered a prestigious prize in the television business. The debates typically draw large audiences — the first Republican debate in August 2015 attracted a record 24 million viewers — and are a vehicle for promoting the networks’ news programs.

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Democratic National Committee rejects Fox News for debates (Original Post) TeamPooka Mar 2019 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Mar 2019 #1
Watch the GOP says they will only go on FOX News or RT for debates. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #28
Good leftynyc Mar 2019 #2
I just saw where DownriverDem Mar 2019 #37
I couldn't care less leftynyc Mar 2019 #38
Hopefull he will be watching the debates from cell Block "C" INdemo Mar 2019 #42
Good! Don't f*** around with them anymore. They aren't a legitimate news outfit. scheming daemons Mar 2019 #3
At Obama's last Correspondent's Dinner they were just listed as "Fox" w/o the "News" part OMGWTF Mar 2019 #13
It's not really "news" about Fox... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #4
yup TeamPooka Mar 2019 #20
And Heritage Foundation. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #31
Excellent news! RockaFowler Mar 2019 #5
Good on you, DNC! brandnewday2009 Mar 2019 #6
Don't even let them in the building. Historic NY Mar 2019 #7
Truly a no-brainer of a decision gratuitous Mar 2019 #8
Yes TryLogic Mar 2019 #39
Fantastic! Yes! Yes! Yes! manor321 Mar 2019 #9
hell, it's about time. 0rganism Mar 2019 #10
About time DFW Mar 2019 #11
I agree !!! TryLogic Mar 2019 #40
Good. nt SunSeeker Mar 2019 #12
From the Facebook thread discussing this CatWoman Mar 2019 #14
Good decision! cp Mar 2019 #15
Our Democratic leaders have found new gumption! Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #16
'bout damned time, too Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #25
Fuck Trump TV. dalton99a Mar 2019 #17
Over at Fox News, there is no mention of the debate questions leak JDC Mar 2019 #18
What, No Propaganda Outlets Allowed for the Debates? dlk Mar 2019 #19
I don't know why it took so long to reject Pravda for the far... NNadir Mar 2019 #21
YES - make FOX irrelevant TrishaJ Mar 2019 #22
Fux Noise can still have exclusive rights to the RepubliCON debates Fritz Walter Mar 2019 #23
Fux gave the fucking moron the questions and answers ahead of time! BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #24
Good. awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #26
fox is not a legitimate news source . stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #27
Go play in traffic, FOX news Blue Owl Mar 2019 #29
hahahahahahahaha TeamPooka Mar 2019 #30
Good new - thanks, I needed some! KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #32
Everyone check out this bullshit. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #33
No doubt Hannity Scarsdale Mar 2019 #34
I suspect they are hired entirely based on appearance, just as with actors. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #35
In my experience TeamPooka Mar 2019 #43
They need to exclued CNN also...since they have a Republican in charge of election coverage. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #36
Fricking GOOD! Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #41
Right On!!!!! littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #44
It's not like this is a new phenomenon. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2019 #45
The new phenomenon is that Democrats aren't pretending Fox News is normal anymore. TeamPooka Mar 2019 #46

TheBlackAdder

(28,225 posts)
28. Watch the GOP says they will only go on FOX News or RT for debates.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:58 PM
Mar 2019

.

I don't think it provides a benefit to debate Trump.

He is a pathological liar, and you cannot debate someone who makes up unchecked lies at the spur of the moment.

.

DownriverDem

(6,232 posts)
37. I just saw where
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:33 AM
Mar 2019

trump said if Fox is shut out, he will not be in debates on any of the other channels. What do you folks think?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. I couldn't care less
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:36 AM
Mar 2019

He'll look like a fucking coward. Democrats have excellent reasons not to agree to go on state run tv.

Wounded Bear

(58,726 posts)
4. It's not really "news" about Fox...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:24 PM
Mar 2019

Hell, remember under Dubya? They traced direct links from the white house to Fox News HQ in New York. They were exchanging calls and faxes (remember those? ) every day. Then Fox would broadcast to all their local affiliates to get their stories aligned.

They've been Repub shills for decades.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
31. And Heritage Foundation.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 06:35 AM
Mar 2019

I suspect Heritage was the main boiler room for it all, and may still be today. They operate using an invisible web, with unknown master players involved.

As you said, I recall some of them confessing to the daily policy and soundbite emails......

DFW

(54,447 posts)
11. About time
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 02:46 PM
Mar 2019

There is NO legitimate reason, and I mean NONE, to let a propaganda organization for the Republican Party have ANYTHING to do with any debate in which our candidates are involved.

I see no reason to not give the true reason, publicly and unambiguously.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. Our Democratic leaders have found new gumption!
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

They have in the past been soooo conciliatory, so agreeable, attempting to be fair at all costs. I'm so glad to see that they have been awakened by the Trump monster, and are playing hardball.

It is the right thing to do not to partner w/a Trump mouthpiece for our debates.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,467 posts)
25. 'bout damned time, too
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:17 PM
Mar 2019

Reach across the aisle only to punch the lying, cheating, fascist bastards in the mouth.

JDC

(10,135 posts)
18. Over at Fox News, there is no mention of the debate questions leak
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:46 PM
Mar 2019

Only that they have deep ties w Trump. They reference the article, but don't state what was in the article.

*as the reasoning behind it.

NNadir

(33,563 posts)
21. I don't know why it took so long to reject Pravda for the far...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 04:54 PM
Mar 2019

...right.

I had a doctor who played that propaganda in his waiting room. I couldn't believe the lies they told. (I'd actually never seen it before then.)

Rather than endure it, I switched doctors.

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
22. YES - make FOX irrelevant
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

and disregard them as a legitimate "news" organization committed to honest and open debate.

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
23. Fux Noise can still have exclusive rights to the RepubliCON debates
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:04 PM
Mar 2019

Oh. Wait.
If that party doesn’t let anybody primary against Individual-1, there won’t be any debates.

Too bad. So sad. Sucks to be them!

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
24. Fux gave the fucking moron the questions and answers ahead of time!
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

His staff came up with the joke/response to Megan Kelly's question about saying rude things about women and his classy come back was, "Only Rosie O'Donnell". Isn't he hysterical...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
32. Good new - thanks, I needed some!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 06:43 AM
Mar 2019

If he agrees to any debate at all, I'll bet tRump will insist on controlling the questions and dialog, so it's probably best he's not invited.

Considering the hundreds of lies he's told, any debate with him will ultimately just turn into a pissing match.

... .....

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
33. Everyone check out this bullshit.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:04 AM
Mar 2019

This dogma in the snip below is exactly why Fox should not be given any credibility:

Democrats bar Fox News from 2020 debates over 'inappropriate' Trump ties
DNC chairman says New Yorker exposé on Trump ties to Fox News cast doubt on network’s ability to hold ‘fair and neutral’ debates

Read it here: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/mar/06/democrats-bar-fox-news-from-2020-debates-after-reported-trump-ties

(snip)

Bill Sammon, the senior vice-president at Fox News, said in a statement he hoped the DNC would re-evaluate the decision, while pointing out that any debate would be hosted by some of the network’s more well respected anchors. “We hope the DNC will reconsider its decision to bar Chris Wallace, Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, all of whom embody journalistic integrity and professionalism, from moderating a Democratic presidential debate,” Sammon said.

“They’re the best debate team in the business and they offer candidates an important opportunity to make their case to the largest TV news audience in America, which includes many persuadable voters.”

Baier tweeted: “That’s really a shame. When it comes to fairness – our news product speaks for itself. We will continue to cover this 2020 race fairly & will continue to invite Democrats – Republicans & Independents on to talk about key issues & substance with our very large viewing audience.”


My gawd these people do all live in a sick bubble........ ...... ...... .....

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
34. No doubt Hannity
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:24 AM
Mar 2019

would get all the questions in advance, so he can tell tRump how to answer. He already stated that he is "not a journalist" so WHAT is he? A mole, a traitor? We all know he is a boot licker for tRump.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
35. I suspect they are hired entirely based on appearance, just as with actors.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:56 AM
Mar 2019

Physical appearance and vocal effect, that is. I don't watch Faux at all, but all the snips I've seen suggest they want to attract a certain segment of the population. Hannity, for example, connects with the bubbas with his good ole boy look and gruff presentation.

I won't even go into the process they use to select female hosts because we know where that would go. I will say if I had pre-teen boys here as kids, they would not be allowed to watch. I did once read they have special couches made to better project the women's......shall we say, "qualities" on those sets with three or four hosts on a couch.

I have also scanned through the biographies of some of them and their education and work history leaves much to be desired, just like with Limbaugh. So, they seem to select people that can best physically project their right-wing dogma without believing or questioning what they say. Simply put, a propaganda outlet.

And, as you said, there's no doubt they and tRump's people would orchestrate and rehearse any debate controlled by their network.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
45. It's not like this is a new phenomenon.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 05:35 PM
Mar 2019

During W's term, Fox was often just an echo chamber for WH talking points. They were sometimes so blatantly just a C&P of the WH website that Fox's version would have the same typos.

As a business model, it was genius. As independent dissemination of news and truth, it didn't rise to the level of garbage.

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