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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:27 PM Mar 2019

Dean resigns over school's choice to not allow Chick-Fil-A

LAWRENCEVILLE, N.J. — A dean at a New Jersey university resigned saying the school's decision to not consider bringing Chick-fil-A to campus because of its opposition to the LGBT community made her feel "like I had been punched in the stomach."

Cynthia Newman, former dean of Rider University's College of Business Administration, said her views as a "very committed Christian" and the fast food chain's views "mirror" one another.

Newman's resignation was first reported Tuesday by Campus Reform, a conservative news site that bills itself as a higher education watchdog. In a video interview, Newman said she resigned as dean last month. She confirmed the resignation to The Associated Press.

Rider University, located outside Trenton, had sent a survey last year asking students which restaurants they would like to see on campus. In November, Newman said, a second survey was sent but did not include Chick-fil-A as a choice. The university said at the time the restaurant was taken off the list because of its opposition to the LGBT community and their values do not align with Rider's values.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dean-resigns-over-schools-choice-to-not-allow-chick-fil-a/ar-BBUq8Rn?li=BBnbfcL


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Dean resigns over school's choice to not allow Chick-Fil-A (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
See ya! gratuitous Mar 2019 #1
Same university former NJ governor Jim Florio teaches at. A CFA is 2 miles away at Quakerbridge Mall TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #13
Well...bye. Moostache Mar 2019 #2
Really? Can we, maybe, punch you in the stomach and see if the comparison holds up? Aristus Mar 2019 #3
Buh bye! I'm sure the school is better off without her. Flaleftist Mar 2019 #4
Sadly, she didn't quit. IllinoisBirdWatcher Mar 2019 #27
womp womp, Dean. Go suck a chicken nugget. CurtEastPoint Mar 2019 #5
It's good that she's gone. lpbk2713 Mar 2019 #6
She can have our Chick-fil-A peggysue2 Mar 2019 #7
It seems they're packed like that everywhere. PTWB Mar 2019 #19
She's quitting because she hates gay people as much as Chick-fil-a does. Iggo Mar 2019 #45
Oh, yeah. She's a "very committed Christian." I guess that's the short version these days. DFW Mar 2019 #8
It's too bad all these "devoted Christian" educators SoCalDem Mar 2019 #24
I don't get where this immense chip on their shoulders comes from DFW Mar 2019 #25
I only found out one of my friends was Jewish..by accident. SoCalDem Mar 2019 #31
That's not exclusive to Jews, either DFW Mar 2019 #35
Lol Christianity has nothing on Islam Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #42
She's devastated about fast food Chicken sandwiches?? Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #9
No kidding Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #41
Lol... Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #43
The story continues... ScratchCat Mar 2019 #10
I have an issue with her teaching. An LGBTQ person that takes her class should also be concerned. Blue_true Mar 2019 #38
"To reject Chick-Fil-A is to reject God" dalton99a Mar 2019 #11
Southern Baptists promoted Southern Paternalism, by shaking down slaveholders for money. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #21
I swear this is not an attack on her appearance Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #44
Why would a college want a food service closed on Sundays? bigbrother05 Mar 2019 #12
Perhaps the ex-Dean wants the students to have a day of fasting :-D TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #18
A win win lame54 Mar 2019 #14
Fair enough: CFA's "values do not align with Rider's values" and the Dean doesn't either. See Ya! TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #15
Don't let the door hit you in your homophobic ass on the way out. n/t X_Digger Mar 2019 #16
Well, "Bye, Felicia." 11 Bravo Mar 2019 #17
So, she threw a fit when she didn't get her way? ooky Mar 2019 #20
I hate this outsourcing and privatization of campus food services. hunter Mar 2019 #22
Yes indeed if I could rec a response this response deserves a rec rurallib Mar 2019 #28
fees from chains and mfgs like soda companies are a big revenue stream now TeamPooka Mar 2019 #33
Where I went to school off campus food was pretty good. Blue_true Mar 2019 #39
Good riddance SoCalDem Mar 2019 #23
She still works there UncleTomsEvilBrother Mar 2019 #26
Methinks LGBTQ students and their supporters should avoid her classes rurallib Mar 2019 #29
I totally agree with you UncleTomsEvilBrother Mar 2019 #30
Bye Felicia. nt TeamPooka Mar 2019 #32
womp womp WhiteTara Mar 2019 #34
Great for Rider. Get an inclusive Dean. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #36
Holy Chicken Sandwich! defacto7 Mar 2019 #37
Yeah, that's rough considering what Christ said about homosexuals TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #40

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. See ya!
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:31 PM
Mar 2019

Not sure how a "very committed Christian" squares following Jesus and furthering the oppression of society's outcasts, but I suspect former Dean Newman and I read the Bible very differently.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
27. Sadly, she didn't quit.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:42 PM
Mar 2019

She resigned her job as dean but plans to go back to teaching at the university.

Most likely she is already tenured.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
6. It's good that she's gone.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019


Someone of her persuasion should not be in a position where she could influence young minds.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
7. She can have our Chick-fil-A
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

Which creates a ridiculous amount of traffic, so much so I'm convinced they're selling cocaine as a side.

I mean it's chicken, not manna from Heaven.

This Dean must not have enjoyed her job much to quit over something so petty.

I'm quitting because of . . . chicken. Really????

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
19. It seems they're packed like that everywhere.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 06:14 PM
Mar 2019

I’ve never seen a Chick fil A that wasn’t absolutely packed at lunch time. I suspect their apparent success is simply due to a combination of significantly above average food and service.

Their RW discriminatory practices are abhorrent.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
45. She's quitting because she hates gay people as much as Chick-fil-a does.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:29 PM
Mar 2019

She said so.

"Cynthia Newman, former dean of Rider University's College of Business Administration, said her views as a 'very committed Christian' and the fast food chain's views 'mirror' one another."

DFW

(54,370 posts)
8. Oh, yeah. She's a "very committed Christian." I guess that's the short version these days.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:44 PM
Mar 2019

The long version is that she is a bigoted, highly intolerant, narrow-minded, prejudiced person who is probably not very pleasant to deal with if you openly hold any beliefs not identical to hers.

I'm betting the school is singing that old Byrds song: "I'll probably feel a whole lot better when you're gone."

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
24. It's too bad all these "devoted Christian" educators
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:24 PM
Mar 2019

just cannot find a single religious school that needs teachers...hmmmmm

I have nothing against religious beliefs, but please just keep them to yourself..

I have friends of over 40 years and I cannot tell you the religious affiliation of most of them.. They are friends because of who THEY are..not their religious "flavor".


DFW

(54,370 posts)
25. I don't get where this immense chip on their shoulders comes from
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:30 PM
Mar 2019

After all, THEY are the ones who perfected the art of conquering and oppressing other peoples over the millenia.

My Turkish, Kurdish and Arab friends here have NEVER expressed any interest in pushing Islam on me, and my Jewish friends in Europe and the States don't try to push Judaism on me either. But man, the "lord" must be one very insecure deity since his minions seem to feel a day has gone by unfulfilled if they haven't pushed their version of celestial entities on someone who really wasn't interested.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
31. I only found out one of my friends was Jewish..by accident.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:52 PM
Mar 2019

Her son Marshall used to have breakfast with my son sometimes, and apparently , Jewish folks aren't supposed to eat bacon She asked me not to let him eat bacon or sausage. Until then I did not know they were Jewish.. Marshall never turned down a Christmas present either

DFW

(54,370 posts)
35. That's not exclusive to Jews, either
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:33 PM
Mar 2019

Muslims aren't supposed to eat pork, either. For that matter, nor am I, but for its cholesterol level, not for any religious reason, although if it will help me live longer, I guess you could call me "pro-life"

ScratchCat

(1,988 posts)
10. The story continues...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 03:46 PM
Mar 2019
Newman told her faculty she was resigning as dean Feb. 14. She said she plans to return to her faculty position.


So, she didn't really resign, she is just returning to teaching instead of being the COBA Dean. Dollars to donuts she had planned on doing this anyway. The headline makes it sound like she resigned from a six figure salary job over this, when that's not what happened.

(note: I have relatives who teach in higher education and its common for people to take Dean positions, and then decide later that they'd rather teach instead of being an administrator.)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. I have an issue with her teaching. An LGBTQ person that takes her class should also be concerned.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 08:55 PM
Mar 2019

I hope there are other class alternatives to hers that student can chose. Let her sit in an empty classroom until she debunks for Liberty U or some other intolerant place.

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
21. Southern Baptists promoted Southern Paternalism, by shaking down slaveholders for money.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 06:29 PM
Mar 2019

.

The slaveholders were abhorred by the community and could not get church blessings. The clergy shook down the slaveholders for thousands of dollars to take communion.

Then, the slaveholders got wise, they offered Baptists, Methodists and Presbyterians money, daughters, property and slaves of their own if they promoted them. Soon, pastors were holding two services, one bestowing the virtues of the slaveholders as upstanding people introducing slaves to Christ. The second service was for the slaves, telling them to be good servants, that their lives will be hard on earth, but they will obtain salvation and go to heaven in the afterlife. After 20 years, slave ownership was an honorable profession.

.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
44. I swear this is not an attack on her appearance
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:47 PM
Mar 2019

But she looks remarkably like Dan Cathy, head of Chick-fil-A, like they could be related!

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
12. Why would a college want a food service closed on Sundays?
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 05:20 PM
Mar 2019

Thinking that allowing a fast food place on campus would be to provide variety and service to the students, why chose one that isn't open everyday and would be reluctant to hire or serve some students based on "committed Christian" values?

Wonder if responses following the 1st survey prompted the removal from the 2nd one?

ooky

(8,922 posts)
20. So, she threw a fit when she didn't get her way?
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 06:23 PM
Mar 2019

Uh huh. Behaving like another typical right wing opponent of democracy. Pretty sure Rider won't miss her.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
22. I hate this outsourcing and privatization of campus food services.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:19 PM
Mar 2019

The school I graduated from had a good cafeteria that served generous portions of real food, and it was a nice place for students to work.

But I guess that was "socialism." It was replaced with a food court identical to something you'd find in any mall.

When I was a student if you wanted crappy fast food you had to go off campus.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. Where I went to school off campus food was pretty good.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 09:03 PM
Mar 2019

Most of the places were mom and pop shops, not chains. But I did use the campus food service as a freshman and sophomore, the food was good, as you stated, it was always fresh and the potions were ample. The meal ticket that I bought at the start of each quarter allowed me three squares per day if I wanted that, typically I skipped breakfast.

26. She still works there
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:42 PM
Mar 2019

She resigned as dean. She still held on to her faculty position. She's only so committed to those Christian values.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
29. Methinks LGBTQ students and their supporters should avoid her classes
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:48 PM
Mar 2019

Not sure if it mentioned what she taught but I have a feeling she will be mixing in a dose of bigotry with her teaching

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