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mopinko

(70,090 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:17 AM Mar 2019

can we stop giving rawstory clicks?

i refuse to go there, because they make you turn off your adblocker.
not happenin for a half baked rewrite of someone else's work.

those of you who go there, please, if you want to share something, click through and post the original story.

tia

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can we stop giving rawstory clicks? (Original Post) mopinko Mar 2019 OP
Can't be said enough Renew Deal Mar 2019 #1
What can't? jberryhill Mar 2019 #2
Rawstory is a giant advertising engine Renew Deal Mar 2019 #3
That can't be said enough! jberryhill Mar 2019 #6
LOL... WheelWalker Mar 2019 #16
I sae it too.... Doesn't DU enable us to present other sources too? 3-4 paragraphs even DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #41
Not every story DownriverDem Mar 2019 #92
I love it too! itcfish Mar 2019 #105
I use RawStory as part of my online browsing everyday. I have a rigorous ad blocker CharleyDog Mar 2019 #110
A lot of times those are from paid-only sites like NYT, WSJ, WaPo mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #7
there are ways around paywalls, but in these days mopinko Mar 2019 #13
Try this. It's life changing. Renew Deal Mar 2019 #14
Wow! You're a whole new species of digitally adjusted human! DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #32
You can set those settings in your iPad Renew Deal Mar 2019 #37
Gotta love the techies! Thanks I will give it a try Pepsidog Mar 2019 #43
More power to you fellow geek 🤓... And I 2nd your Renew Deal with some... DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #53
Tried it and it works. Renew... EarnestPutz Mar 2019 #59
What does all this accomplish? House of Roberts Mar 2019 #61
It blocks all advertising without using AdBlocker Renew Deal Mar 2019 #71
Ok. I'm not having a problem with that, House of Roberts Mar 2019 #107
This is correct Renew Deal Mar 2019 #111
It enables an unknown third party to have a list of all of the sites you are accessing... jberryhill Mar 2019 #86
Isn't Cyprus where Wilbur Ross and a bunch of russkis like to do their banking? erronis Mar 2019 #94
Last night, their "content" was from The Daily Beast. The Daily Beast broke the story and emulatorloo Mar 2019 #31
Good point about monetizing the work of others... but... DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #36
Kick dalton99a Mar 2019 #4
Thank you! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #5
How do you turn off the notifications kristndem Mar 2019 #8
If you use firefox The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #20
I have Firefox, use UBlock & NoScript! They really cut down the bullshit websites send. Works w/RS. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #40
Two options ToxMarz Mar 2019 #27
Fine by me! Can we do the same with PoliticusUSA? 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2019 #9
yes please. that's my #2. mopinko Mar 2019 #15
AGREE! SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #10
I think it's a good site underpants Mar 2019 #11
Me too Soph0571 Mar 2019 #35
It fucking sucks! The original sources deserve the traffic, not Raw Story. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #54
Yes jayschool2013 Mar 2019 #69
"MY" cable new outlets?? You have no idea who you're talking to. But, just so you know, I DO NOT DontBooVote Mar 2019 #70
Wow. jayschool2013 Mar 2019 #99
I read the summary and usually click on the main link underpants Mar 2019 #73
i'm fine w that. mopinko Mar 2019 #84
Not until we block Intercept links. MineralMan Mar 2019 #12
i never go there, so... mopinko Mar 2019 #17
Now that's a good idea! Docreed2003 Mar 2019 #75
Hmmm...I have an ad blocker DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #18
And your point is....what, exactly? That we should all get your ad blocker and a chromebook? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #46
Chill out. Read my text and other's. DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #81
Agreed. Their site crashes my browser. Too many ads and scripts. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #19
I avoid clicking on Raw Story and The Hill PatSeg Mar 2019 #21
More sites going that way. HuffPo used to be good; now is full of fluff & clickbait & behind curve Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #50
It feels like PatSeg Mar 2019 #89
i hate the hill, too. it's like playing whack-a-mole. mopinko Mar 2019 #85
Good analogy PatSeg Mar 2019 #91
I agree. Rawstory is not a real news source. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #22
uBlock works for me The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #23
I was just going to post the same thing, Ive never seen anything wanting me to turn off my adblocker Snake Plissken Mar 2019 #26
And your point is? That it's our fault we don't use your ad blocker? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #47
Picking a fight? Poster simply stated that a particular way works for them. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #52
Nope. Just trying to suss out the poster's point, which doesn't address the OP's comments. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #56
I'm trying to give some advice for folks who may not know about The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #77
The OP said he doesn't go there because they make you turn off your adblocker. Demit Mar 2019 #106
I use ghostery 2naSalit Mar 2019 #64
i avoid raw story as well. barbtries Mar 2019 #24
Two ways to get around RS... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2019 #25
Rawstory items are constantly posted on DU. Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #28
That's cause, while not 100% accurate, they are a liberal aggregate that posts most current issues. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #42
Agreed. I happen to like rawstory Poiuyt Mar 2019 #58
They are a great aggregator and starting place for liberal news IronLionZion Mar 2019 #97
Rawstory has one of the best moderated comment sections on the Net. MrScorpio Mar 2019 #78
I don't go there often but with ad blocker+ and ghostery I have not had a problem.. mitch96 Mar 2019 #29
K&R radical noodle Mar 2019 #30
Good strategy. Same I use for Wapo stories. marble falls Mar 2019 #33
Thank you. Anytime I see a link here to Raw Story I post a link to the original source emulatorloo Mar 2019 #34
Get a better ad blocker. backscatter712 Mar 2019 #38
So, it's our fault because we don't have the right ad blocker. It's not RS's fault, then, and... DontBooVote Mar 2019 #48
I quit Rawstory a couple years ago for all the above reasons Leith Mar 2019 #39
Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying this! PLEASE! Sometimes I let my guard down DontBooVote Mar 2019 #44
From what I've seen... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #45
That's 99.9% of all they do, steal other people's work and then load you down with ads! DontBooVote Mar 2019 #49
thank you, I agree gopiscrap Mar 2019 #51
My Ad Blocker Works Fine There! DoctorJoJo Mar 2019 #55
Another "You have the wrong ad blocker" post. SMH. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #57
No. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #60
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #62
Not "following you around". You are all over this thread, hard not to bump into you. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #66
You just did! And I'm all over this thread because I hate shitty, thieving, and greed RS! And, DontBooVote Mar 2019 #68
A click on Rawstory pretty much shuts down my Ipad. ooky Mar 2019 #63
Oh but haven't you read?? YOU HAVE THE WRONG AD BLOCKER! Don't you see?? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #65
I go to Raw Story and Mediaite because they summarize the main points of videos. tblue37 Mar 2019 #67
Rawstory is one of many sites that do this. SpankMe Mar 2019 #72
AGREED! PLEASE READ THIS!! elder phd Mar 2019 #74
I like Raw Story and find the site to be informative Gothmog Mar 2019 #76
Try This IH8TU Mar 2019 #79
Just as soon as we stop giving Trump tweeter account clicks! Cryptoad Mar 2019 #80
I go there all the time and I don't turn off my adblock for any site workinclasszero Mar 2019 #82
same here. dameatball Mar 2019 #103
i like their site samnsara Mar 2019 #83
I use uBlock Origin The Truth Is Here Mar 2019 #87
Yes! Never started. Deliberately misleading clickbait headlines Hortensis Mar 2019 #88
Second the motion. They don't belong in LBN. yerop Mar 2019 #90
Great chart. Thanks for posting! n/t DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #112
I don't know why that chart has the RW Politico listed as "skews liberal" BumRushDaShow Mar 2019 #114
I use two different browsers just for that still_one Mar 2019 #93
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2019 #95
There is so much good info in this thread it is worth a bookmark. n/t Lucid Dreamer Mar 2019 #98
I have to take a shower after visiting RS B Stieg Mar 2019 #96
Many of the original stories have paywalls and most people can't afford subscriptions pnwmom Mar 2019 #100
Out of all the problems and concerns I have in my life, Raw Story is way down on the list. I go dameatball Mar 2019 #101
Rawstory is on the "ignore" list I keep in my head. hunter Mar 2019 #102
YEAH LETS PUT ANOTHER LIBERAL NEWS SOURCE OUT OF BUSINESS!!! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #104
zooom point went right over your head, methinks. mopinko Mar 2019 #109
does rotstory pay people to post its crap on internet discussion boards? nt msongs Mar 2019 #108
Agreed. sarcasmo Mar 2019 #113
If rawstory served text-only content and advertising they wouldn't suck. hunter Mar 2019 #115

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
3. Rawstory is a giant advertising engine
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:20 AM
Mar 2019

Their only purpose is to take other peoples stories and load you up with ads.

Mopinko is right. If you find a story from Rawstory, go find the original.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
41. I sae it too.... Doesn't DU enable us to present other sources too? 3-4 paragraphs even
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:28 PM
Mar 2019

And the editors often choose eyeball-getting stories over more sober posts.

I still like DU, but we must not hamstring ourselves, the Democrats, with a lack of honest self-awareness.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
92. Not every story
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:46 PM
Mar 2019

I love Raw Story. It's my go to first every day. Not all stories are with a link. To each his own.

itcfish

(1,828 posts)
105. I love it too!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:34 PM
Mar 2019

I have my ad blocker and pop up block on and I get no ads and have no problem opening pages. I am very techno challenged, but I have no problems with that website.

Perhaps you can try https://crooksandliars .com/

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
110. I use RawStory as part of my online browsing everyday. I have a rigorous ad blocker
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:26 PM
Mar 2019

and no problems with RS. No pop ups, no ads. Sometimes I learn something there I missed on other sites. I know it's not as valid and reliable as, for example, TMS (I mean, that's the best).

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. A lot of times those are from paid-only sites like NYT, WSJ, WaPo
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:24 AM
Mar 2019

I appreciate their story rollups from other places, even if their click-bait headlines bug the shit out of me on the regular.

Sometimes they actually have original content, too.

All kinds of sites now force or at least guilt you into turning off your ad-blocker these days. Most of them, in fact.

Obviously don't go there if you don't want to, but I appreciate the resource of rawstory when I want a recap w/o having to pay, myself.

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
13. there are ways around paywalls, but in these days
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:34 AM
Mar 2019

anyone who can afford to subscribe to wapo or the times should do so. i bumped into wapo's paywall so many times my guilt kicked in.
but they all do give you a few free peeks.

the rest of them, i have no problem closing that popup.
esp when it is a local source that i am unlikely to return to.

imma have to subscribe to esquire soon, so i can follow charlie pierce. love him. even tho i doubt i will read much else there.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
14. Try this. It's life changing.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:35 AM
Mar 2019
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html

Works on any device. I wouldn't try it on a computer you don't own on a network you don't own.

Open Control Panel through Start menu or Windows search
Go to Network and Internet category and then to Network and Sharing Center
On the left side of the screen find Change adapter settings and click on it
Select your active connection, right-click on it and choose Properties
Find Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IP) in the list, select it and then click on Properties again
Choose Use the following DNS server addresses and enter these:
176.103.130.130
176.103.130.131
for "Default" servers;
176.103.130.132
176.103.130.134
for "Family protection" servers. (No porn)
You can use
2a00:5a60::ad1:0ff
2a00:5a60::ad2:0ff
and
2a00:5a60::bad1:0ff
2a00:5a60::bad2:0ff
addresses respectively for Internet Protocol Version 6 instead.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
32. Wow! You're a whole new species of digitally adjusted human!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:09 PM
Mar 2019

That might be helpful if my pad had a "right click button." But kudos for the work around. Any chance the creators of that website can make their system more graceful? It would almost be easier to pass a general "digital grace" law.

But thanks, truly! You're my hero!

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
37. You can set those settings in your iPad
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:18 PM
Mar 2019

Go to Settings, Wi-Fi. Touch your Wifi network. Scroll down to where it says Configure DNS and touch it. Change to Manual and add:

176.103.130.130
176.103.130.131

Remove whatever is there. Save it and restart the phone

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
53. More power to you fellow geek 🤓... And I 2nd your Renew Deal with some...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:44 PM
Mar 2019

Green New Deal!

We need to start thinking regeneratively and your handle "Renew" says it all.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
71. It blocks all advertising without using AdBlocker
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:02 PM
Mar 2019

It sends all advertising to an unreachable location, so ads never load. It is not detected as ad blocking by any website. Some websites force you through ads to get to the page you clicked. In those cases, you might not reach your destination, but that's not common.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
107. Ok. I'm not having a problem with that,
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:57 PM
Mar 2019

as far as I know. I run Norton on my Windows 10 desktop, and Bitdefender on my Windows 7, and use Chrome mostly on both.
Attempting to change things like you describe seldom goes well for me. All it takes is one fat finger move, and I get off into a place I don't know my way back from.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
86. It enables an unknown third party to have a list of all of the sites you are accessing...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:36 PM
Mar 2019

...and it allows them to block content from sources which they decide to block.

They are nice people in Cyprus, who do this out of the goodness of their hearts.

https://adguard.com/en/eula.html

Rightholder (owner of all rights, whether exclusive or otherwise to the Software) means ADGUARD SOFTWARE LIMITED, a company incorporated according to the laws of the Republic of Cyprus.

[...]

This EULA will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the Republic of Cyprus without reference to conflicts of law rules and principles.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
94. Isn't Cyprus where Wilbur Ross and a bunch of russkis like to do their banking?
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:00 PM
Mar 2019

While using a DNS server like this workaround suggests does allow them (Adguard) to know which sites you are visiting, it doesn't give them content to your web pages or searches, etc.

I'm somewhat interested in the number of former gov't and other intelligence agencies have gotten involved with normal internet companies. For example Condisleeza Rice went to the DropBox board of directors. VPN slinger Revolving doors and shared secrets.

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
31. Last night, their "content" was from The Daily Beast. The Daily Beast broke the story and
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:08 PM
Mar 2019

deserves the clicks.

It is easy enough for a poster who comes across a Raw Story article to find the link to the original source within the Raw Story article and then post the original source here on DU.

Raw Story monetizes the work of real journalists and that is not right.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
36. Good point about monetizing the work of others... but...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:15 PM
Mar 2019

every time I'm flummoxed by a low information voter, I send them to Raw Story. It's more likely to keep their attention (and enlighten them with very astutely chosen articles).

RawStory.com is easy for the LIV's to remember.

*LIV = low information voter

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
5. Thank you!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:22 AM
Mar 2019

Raw Story is clickbait; they lure people with misleading, tendentious headlines. Just link to the original articles and skip the ads and hyperbole.

kristndem

(410 posts)
8. How do you turn off the notifications
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:25 AM
Mar 2019

Somehow Rawstory began notifications on my laptop and I don't know how to stop it.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
20. If you use firefox
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:53 AM
Mar 2019

Go into the menu, then to content blocking, scroll down to notifications, click settings, remove all website listed in the box that you don't want to receive notifications from and then check the box where it says "Block new requests asking to allow notifications".

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
27. Two options
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:02 PM
Mar 2019

Method 1
On the Rawstory website there is a picture of a bell at bottom right hand corner, hover over with mouse and it should say whether notifications are on or off. I think you can toggle them on or off by clicking this icon. A lot of website are asking to allow notifications when you visit them. This is what that means, say no when they ask.

Method 2
On Chrome
Go to Settings
Scroll down to end and select Advanced
Scroll down to Content Settings
Scroll down to Notifications

Under Notifications you will see a toggle for "Ask before sending"

Turn on if it is not

Then you will see list of blocked websites and a list of allowed websites for notifications

You can manually add www.rawstory.com to list of blocked, but I find it easier and more reliable to
go down to allowed websites, find the offender and remove it from the list (click the three dots to the right and you
will see the option {fyi if there is a funny image instead of the three dots it means it is a plugin installed and you have to
remove that plugin, rawstory is not a plug in})

If you use another browser there is some similar method you will need to look for.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
10. AGREE!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:29 AM
Mar 2019

I will rec this post as hard as possible. I have been bypassing Rawstory links for almost a year now. Unreliable and a clickbait paradise.
I think I also remember cases of a lot of malware and viruses being picked up through some of their links.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
69. Yes
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:57 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:14 PM - Edit history (2)

And I would add the same about SO MANY television "news" outlets, including some of many Americans' favorite cable shows. They just riff on the work done by real reporters at legacy print media.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
70. "MY" cable new outlets?? You have no idea who you're talking to. But, just so you know, I DO NOT
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:59 PM
Mar 2019

watch cable news nor do I consume any broadcast news, not even local!

But thanks for playing!

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
99. Wow.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:13 PM
Mar 2019

It was an all-inclusive "your," not intended to point you out.

I don't follow your posts, so of course I don't know you.

I apologize for my poor choice of words. I will amend my first post.

Peace.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
73. I read the summary and usually click on the main link
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:12 PM
Mar 2019

especially if it’s something I want more detail on or if I like the author.

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
17. i never go there, so...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:36 AM
Mar 2019

i am totally uninterested in anything breaking on intercept until someone else confirms it.
different issue.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
18. Hmmm...I have an ad blocker
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:41 AM
Mar 2019

called uBlock on my chromebook, and I don't have problems with Rawstory, at least in an IT sense.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
46. And your point is....what, exactly? That we should all get your ad blocker and a chromebook?
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:37 PM
Mar 2019

So, it's our fault, and not the fault of Raw Story's greed and plagiarism and lack of honorable journalism?

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
21. I avoid clicking on Raw Story and The Hill
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:53 AM
Mar 2019

I can't take all flashing, video, and pop-up windows. If I'm on my laptop, it is impossible to load and on my PC it is too distracting to be able to read the article. I remember when Raw Story was a half-way decent site, but now it is just awful. I don't mind advertising, but I can't stand all the flash and flare. Its not like I'd ever click on any of those obnoxious ads and I can't imagine who would.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
89. It feels like
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:42 PM
Mar 2019

they aren't getting enough clicks, so they decided they need MORE obnoxious graphics. Maybe people will like that better.

I remember when HuffPo was primarily just articles that didn't even have photos (long time ago). You went there for the content. Now it is starting to have that tabloid look to it.

We are stimulated enough these days. We don't need all this in-your-face graphics. I've about had it with gifs too. They used to be kind of clever, but now I find it too distracting to read through threads on Facebook and even sometimes here at DU, when there is something always moving on my screen. This can't possibly be healthy.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
91. Good analogy
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:45 PM
Mar 2019

I have better things to do than hit the "x" on every damn video and pop-up. Besides sometimes that brings up something worse. Nice way to sell a product, annoy the shit out people.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. I agree. Rawstory is not a real news source.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:54 AM
Mar 2019

It doesn't run news of its own or verify anything.

There are a couple of other sites that posters use, as well, that are not legitimate news sources.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
26. I was just going to post the same thing, Ive never seen anything wanting me to turn off my adblocker
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:01 PM
Mar 2019

On that site, nor do I see any ads

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
77. I'm trying to give some advice for folks who may not know about
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

uBlock, as it can work with any site, not just RS.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
106. The OP said he doesn't go there because they make you turn off your adblocker.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:34 PM
Mar 2019

So people posting about ad blockers are being perfectly on point.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
25. Two ways to get around RS...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:00 PM
Mar 2019

I go to RS to get the headlines then follow the links to the full article. But...the ads suck...

Easy...keep ad blocker on put browser in “private” mode.

Annoying way... hit the button that says something like keep going without donating that will allow you to read without ads for a limited amount of visits then turn off adblocker for a while at the site and it resets. Rinse, repeat.

You’re right though post the original link.

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
42. That's cause, while not 100% accurate, they are a liberal aggregate that posts most current issues.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:31 PM
Mar 2019

.

They are often on RS before C&L, Wonkette, Politicus, DU or other mainstream sites post their articles.
As an aggregate, you don't have to go to twenty or more websites to see what is popping up on the radar.
You can read their synopsis or visit the originating site directly, their synopses are mostly accurate to give gist.


They tend to rush articles to print, which gives them the advantage for time, but some accuracy is lost.

But, for the whole, they are a beneficial resource for those who want to get the jump on things.

.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
58. Agreed. I happen to like rawstory
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:50 PM
Mar 2019

I use an adblocker and if I get the popup asking to support them, I just click on the small type that says "Continue using without support at this time," or words to that effect.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
97. They are a great aggregator and starting place for liberal news
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:10 PM
Mar 2019

but if they reposted someone else's story, I'll click through and read the original. I do the same for MSN, The Hill, etc. when DUers post from there.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
78. Rawstory has one of the best moderated comment sections on the Net.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

I follow them on Disqus and screen through the articles there without needing to go to the site.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
29. I don't go there often but with ad blocker+ and ghostery I have not had a problem..
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:06 PM
Mar 2019

That's on a Mac...
m

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
34. Thank you. Anytime I see a link here to Raw Story I post a link to the original source
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:11 PM
Mar 2019

They try to profit off other people’s hard work and to me that is unexceptable.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
38. Get a better ad blocker.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:18 PM
Mar 2019

I use uBlock Origin and Nano Defender.

Nano Defender has some reasonably decent anti-anti-adblock capability.

It's all good until we see anti-anti-anti-adbock software, then we'll have to make anti-anti-anti-anti-adbock tools...

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
48. So, it's our fault because we don't have the right ad blocker. It's not RS's fault, then, and...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:39 PM
Mar 2019

we should totally continue to support their shitty website with our clicks?

Leith

(7,809 posts)
39. I quit Rawstory a couple years ago for all the above reasons
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:21 PM
Mar 2019

The final straw was when I couldn't just close the pop-up without signing up. Scroo that.

Edited to add: even before that, I went to RS to get the link to the original source. I don't like second and third hand sources, no matter who it is.



 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
44. Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying this! PLEASE! Sometimes I let my guard down
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:35 PM
Mar 2019

and then I have to spend the next 15 minutes getting my machine un-frozen, reboot, and then get back to what I was doing, if my work wasn't lost in the process. When it is lost, it can be quite maddening to have to start over.

I've been saying this and the person who posted the Raw Story NEVER acknowledges it!

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #60)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
66. Not "following you around". You are all over this thread, hard not to bump into you.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:55 PM
Mar 2019

Before your post I had two posts and you had seven. Now it is 3 and 8.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
68. You just did! And I'm all over this thread because I hate shitty, thieving, and greed RS! And,
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:57 PM
Mar 2019

I passionately agree with the OP.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
63. A click on Rawstory pretty much shuts down my Ipad.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:53 PM
Mar 2019

Then I have to go to settings and clear out all the website data and restart. What a useless website.

So now when I see a link to Rawstory I just google the story from another one of the usual half dozen or so websites that also have the same story without loading up so much advertising that my Ipad won't run.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
65. Oh but haven't you read?? YOU HAVE THE WRONG AD BLOCKER! Don't you see??
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:55 PM
Mar 2019

It's YOU that is the problem here!

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
67. I go to Raw Story and Mediaite because they summarize the main points of videos.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

I am almost deaf, and many videos are either not captioned or captioned so badly (by automatic captioning) that it's just gibberish.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
72. Rawstory is one of many sites that do this.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:11 PM
Mar 2019

Ads are blocked on all computers at my workplace as admin policy. So, even if I wanted, I cant get to some sites.

elder phd

(18 posts)
74. AGREED! PLEASE READ THIS!!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:14 PM
Mar 2019

first, let me say, raw story has been a go to site for me for years, if only for the video clips (don't have a TV). back in the day, i developed a reasonably good relationship with roxanne cooper, who was doing really good work and i know her role there was challenging (now ed./pub.!). sent kudos when merited, and tried to alert them to errors and misleading statements (in one case, a kinda dangerous one). she and i had a good rapport, and she was pretty much without fail professional and pleasant, most often even personable. i just reviewed our exchanges over the years, going back to 2012, and they were pleasant and chummy, almost without exception; seriously, though only about a dozen msgs. the last one was from about 18 months ago, and quite cordial, no issues. have to admit, though, that some of my msgs wrt the ad nightmares have not always been either calm or pleasant; they make me crazy!

all that said, though, the point of my voicing my opinion here and now is this:

YES! AGREED!!
the ads are a complete system overload and often intrusive, the headlines are too often misleading click bait, and they sometimes double post things (i.e., resurrecting previous pieces under different headlines) when their click rate is down.

i hate all of that, given they were once (quite likely, prior to losing net neutrality) pretty damn good. in fact, won an award for their independent reporting on the GOP influence in the prosecution of don siegelman. and, did you know they acquired alternet last spring? so, who knows what kind of pressures net neutrality is putting them through.

so, now, get this.

yesterday i tried to send a simple courteous correction to: corrections@rawstory.com

the issue? the first line in a piece about dershowitz (getting accused in open court of the epstein, er, benefits/conflict of interest) stated
"dershowitz... accessed of ..." blablabla...

obviously, should have been "accused," and just that one letter. but, imho, a rather crucial one.

my msg to corrections (subject line: dershowitz):

he was ACCUSED; not accessed!

thx


immediately it was returned b/c they had spammed my email address!

now, i had sent similar grammatical corrections in the past, as well as a few outraged comments about the ad overload, etc.

so, i simply sent the same msg, but from a different email address. and it worked fine; not returned.

however, when i saw this DU post this morning, i sent the following msg under the email address that did work yesterday:

Your readership is finally wising up to the click-mongering, money-grubbing downward spiral at the site:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211895953

Have to say, it’s been sad to watch.

Ta.


and guess what? they had spammed that other email address as well!
it all appears to be a function of their having signed up for a google group that allows them to set spam classifications. on a whim, i guess; why would they auto-spam all corrections input from readers?

i've sent roxanne a separate email, letting her know what's going on and voicing my concerns. so far, that msg has not been returned, which is a good sign; if i hear back directly from her, i will share that here.

BOTTOM LINE!! folks, so much stuff is going on, it's increasingly important that we not go at these issues impatiently or narrowly. without knowing all the details and context, we may be shooting ourselves in the foot. i don't know if there might be a way to coax them into at least explaining the ad situation to their readers (bet: net neutrality; we were warned), but surely we can lobby respectfully for better communications in hopes they'll respond to their readers.

after all, we need all the good voices and conduits we can get, all hands on deck! no sense in shoving folks overboard when we don't have all the info.

will keep you posted here!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
88. Yes! Never started. Deliberately misleading clickbait headlines
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:40 PM
Mar 2019

tell me they're trolling for those who want to be mislead. And I always want the primary source.

A media bias site I just dropped by said Raw Story sometimes publishes pseudoscience stories, but I haven't been there to see for myself.

 

yerop

(89 posts)
90. Second the motion. They don't belong in LBN.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 01:44 PM
Mar 2019

Neither does HuffPost, really.

Stick to the green square, or the big circle, in LBN:

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
114. I don't know why that chart has the RW Politico listed as "skews liberal"
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:44 PM
Mar 2019


It belongs over on the other side with The Hill. Reuters needs to be more right as does AP.

They are also missing old outlets like "Town Hall" & "American Spectator" (and should have included "Fox Business" with the Snooze outlet) on the right... and added "American Prospect" on the left.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
96. I have to take a shower after visiting RS
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:07 PM
Mar 2019

Which gives Sophos time to clean out all the trackers, etc. that RS uses.
DU is number one, and Crooks and Liars is second. I rarely hit Raw Story anymore.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
100. Many of the original stories have paywalls and most people can't afford subscriptions
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:16 PM
Mar 2019

to every site that might be linked to on Raw Story.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
101. Out of all the problems and concerns I have in my life, Raw Story is way down on the list. I go
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:16 PM
Mar 2019

there now and then and never have any real problems. Certainly nothing that would lead me to argue with fellow DU'ers about it.
I usually log onto a site that lists 50 top liberal websites each day. My first stop is DU then after that it's whatever else I may want to go. If I don't want to go to Raw Story that leaves me 48 others, without even doing a deeper search.

The only thing I don't like about Raw Story is they tend to over hype the articles. But I sort through that stuff pretty quickly.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
102. Rawstory is on the "ignore" list I keep in my head.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:17 PM
Mar 2019

If I accidentally click on sites I'm ignoring too many times, I'll add them to my browser's blacklist.

I use U-block Origin, but turn it off for all the sites I regularly visit. Mostly these are technical sites with unobtrusive highly specific advertising, not clickbait crud.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
104. YEAH LETS PUT ANOTHER LIBERAL NEWS SOURCE OUT OF BUSINESS!!!
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:25 PM
Mar 2019

MY GAWD.

I don't care if they DO re-post articles, the radio, TV, and web are full of Right Wing propaganda machines. We should be proliferating even more outlets to disseminate good and true stories.

Raw Story was one of the first liberal news sites I remember. I went there and BartCop. Until I eventually found DU. They were my morning ritual. I'll always give them a pass just for their pioneering work on the net alone.

Absolutely ridiculous on a Democratic/liberal site to be calling for the ostracization of another sister site that gets the real news out there. Can anyone even imagine a prominent RW site calling on people to shut down another RW site.....because they re-post articles or use ads?

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
109. zooom point went right over your head, methinks.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:10 PM
Mar 2019

i'm not calling for them to be put out of business. i'm just asking people to give credit where credit is due, and post the original link.

they have a predatory business plan. both ripping off other people's work, and insisting on at least trying to negate people's privacy. if it were just one thing or the other, it wouldnt be a thing to me.

and yes, i remember them back in the day. one of their editors used to post here, and i would say du helped them really get off the ground. at that time i think it was more ct stories than hard news.
she eventually got banned for using us a springboard.

so, yeah, the business plan was in place from the start. prolly why it bugs me.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
115. If rawstory served text-only content and advertising they wouldn't suck.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:04 PM
Mar 2019

But that's my opinion of most of the internet.

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