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Judge Ellis: Sentencing guidelines "excessive," Manafort has lived "an otherwise innocent life" (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2019 OP
WOW elleng Mar 2019 #1
Is the Judge is compromised? DURHAM D Mar 2019 #2
No, he is just an egocentric nut job. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #22
Way worse, he is responsible for so many deaths... he is a fucking monster... JCMach1 Mar 2019 #40
This judge is a kook. As demonstrated many times during the trial emulatorloo Mar 2019 #3
Judge Ellis is horrible. OliverQ Mar 2019 #4
Just listening to that... he is sympathic to Manafort? Peacetrain Mar 2019 #5
Here comes a low sentence. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #6
Shimon confirms: Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #7
"Otherwise innocent" by helping despots attain power lostnfound Mar 2019 #8
"An otherwise innocent life"? gratuitous Mar 2019 #9
'innocent life' - UNBELIEVABLE! empedocles Mar 2019 #12
Blameless Jane Austin Mar 2019 #43
Judge from beginning clearly anti Special Counsel empedocles Mar 2019 #10
Manafort sentenced to "Almost" 4 years in prison emulatorloo Mar 2019 #26
As I've been saying, Ellis is thoroughly shit. This is another gift to Trump. manor321 Mar 2019 #11
Shows you how morally bankrupt Ellis is if he can claim Manafort otherwise led a good life RockRaven Mar 2019 #13
the fix is in. sounds like the judge thinks manafort is a fucking victim. spanone Mar 2019 #14
So, which one of the recesses was so the judge could take Trump's phone call? TwilightZone Mar 2019 #15
"An otherwise innocent life".....for the white man w/ access to money. chowder66 Mar 2019 #16
Innocent except for the decades of serious crimes. SharonAnn Mar 2019 #37
So does that mean we have a free pass to commit bank fraud, tax evasion, and lie to the feds? emulatorloo Mar 2019 #17
This judge is a joke Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #18
Probably won't be necessary. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #20
I know, but I say, pile them all on! Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #24
Works for me. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #25
This country is such a joke. OliverQ Mar 2019 #19
"An otherwise innocent life". PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #21
I forgot it was Judge Ellis! Anon-C Mar 2019 #23
Wowee. What is the deal with this judge? Glimmer of Hope Mar 2019 #27
A partisan, grandstanding hack. Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #36
47 months snowybirdie Mar 2019 #28
Maybe if Manafort expressed remorse, ellis would have let him off with probation. empedocles Mar 2019 #29
Manafort sentenced to "almost" 4 years in prison emulatorloo Mar 2019 #30
Yeah I. I'm soooo sure he'd say the same about a non-white defendant. That Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2019 #31
Will N.Y. Bring Charges Against Manafort Now? dlk Mar 2019 #32
What's the purpose of guidelines? n/t dajoki Mar 2019 #33
"Manafort" and "innocent life" BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #34
I reckon "an otherwise innocent life" Ghost Dog Mar 2019 #44
Joe Average Citizen would get more for jaywalking, Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #35
What a fucking joke dalton99a Mar 2019 #38
An Otherwise Innocent Life maxsolomon Mar 2019 #39
Trump will pardon him Generic Other Mar 2019 #41
One if his daughters has disowned him and changed her Ilsa Mar 2019 #42

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
22. No, he is just an egocentric nut job.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:57 PM
Mar 2019

Very unprofessional in my opinion. Rachel Maddow did a short story about him about 6 months ago. He is an ass and has always been an ass.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
7. Shimon confirms:
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:46 PM
Mar 2019
Judge TS Ellis said he believed a sentence of 19-24 years as was recommended would be "excessive" for Manafort.


lostnfound

(16,178 posts)
8. "Otherwise innocent" by helping despots attain power
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:47 PM
Mar 2019

And betraying his country.

“First time offender” is wealthy white male privilege, when you get to be guilty your entire life and don’t get prosecuted until you’re 70.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. "An otherwise innocent life"?
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:47 PM
Mar 2019

Wowsers.

Well, there's always the sentencing next week in D.C., where protestations of an otherwise innocent life may not get quite such a sympathetic hearing.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
13. Shows you how morally bankrupt Ellis is if he can claim Manafort otherwise led a good life
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mar 2019

That is complete horse-s--t. He made a living taking blood money from despots who stomped on necks of their citizens and murdered people who got in their way. F--k this guy.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
19. This country is such a joke.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:56 PM
Mar 2019

A judge who calls Manafort's life blameless has no business being on the bench.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
21. "An otherwise innocent life".
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:57 PM
Mar 2019

Sort of like the person who murders his father and mother, then asks for clemency because he's an orphan.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
31. Yeah I. I'm soooo sure he'd say the same about a non-white defendant. That
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:02 PM
Mar 2019

asshole judge might be a joke. But the joke's about to be on us all.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
35. Joe Average Citizen would get more for jaywalking,
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:09 PM
Mar 2019

This is just going to have tRumpie crowing that all is not as bad as it seems. Why are thy handed so many bouquets? Horrendous!

maxsolomon

(33,333 posts)
39. An Otherwise Innocent Life
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:24 PM
Mar 2019

= not convicted of any other crimes in America.

What he did in Ukraine? not in the judge's purview.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
42. One if his daughters has disowned him and changed her
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:44 PM
Mar 2019

Last name, IIRC. She claimed his money was blood money. I guess the judge is in the pocket of trump and friends.

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