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I do not like springing forward - it sucks. (Original Post) 7wo7rees Mar 2019 OP
It does suck. Silver lining, you get an extra hour of sunlight in the evening! bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #1
That's my reason for hoping that if we decide to stop torturing ourselves twice a year gtar100 Mar 2019 #29
In Denver in the summer, it's not completely dark until 9:45 pm. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #47
I love the seemingly simple solution FBaggins Mar 2019 #56
That's actually a very good idea. Codeine Mar 2019 #58
I agree. Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #2
Yes! Freddie Mar 2019 #3
Me too moose65 Mar 2019 #13
Same here. Different Drummer Mar 2019 #15
Do we need sunrise at 4:45 am and trash trucks banging carts around at that time?? Bengus81 Mar 2019 #8
DST was for farms Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #11
WWI Kaiser Wilhelm did it to save fuel, not farms. 100 years later he is still messing with us...nt essme Mar 2019 #34
Uhhh no,it was also for kids like myself who played baseball........ Bengus81 Mar 2019 #39
Trash trucks in my city often come at 4:38 am, whether or not it's dark. raging moderate Mar 2019 #26
8 pm is fine. 9:30 pm is a joke. nt kstewart33 Mar 2019 #48
I agree. It does more damage and little good. It was jrthin Mar 2019 #4
"Destabilizes the body for weeks"? Codeine Mar 2019 #19
You may not have an issue. But, for people with sleep issues, like myself, jrthin Mar 2019 #20
Yup, for those of us with sleep problems Eko Mar 2019 #32
Are your sleep problem medical or are they you not being comfortable? Blue_true Mar 2019 #37
Medical. Eko Mar 2019 #44
Ok. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #50
Studies show accidents increase the week after but whatever. nt essme Mar 2019 #35
I feel like crap. It will take me months to recover. Beakybird Mar 2019 #5
Months? Over an hour of lost sleep? MineralMan Mar 2019 #16
You don't have to do it all at once, you know. Mariana Mar 2019 #59
Golf. Squeeze in a round before dark. Kayak,yard work baseball more sunshine after work. IADEMO2004 Mar 2019 #6
I hate it also. and it makes me angry because there is no good reason for it now JI7 Mar 2019 #7
But why is standard time any better? moose65 Mar 2019 #9
The twice-annual whining over a single hour begins. Codeine Mar 2019 #10
Haha! So true! moose65 Mar 2019 #12
That's because it is losing an hour that is actually harmful. Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #23
Thank you. I'm going to fix it today with a one-hour nap MineralMan Mar 2019 #17
One wonders dpibel Mar 2019 #36
It was flying FROM Hawaii that killed me! moose65 Mar 2019 #38
Hope those who hate DST don't travel across 4-6 time zones.......... Bengus81 Mar 2019 #40
They'll be destroyed for WEEKS! MONTHS EVEN! Codeine Mar 2019 #42
A Genie said I could collect 1 billion dollars when it strikes 2 am on March 10th, 2019. Oneironaut Mar 2019 #55
I do not like falling backward. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #14
Me three. Yeehah Mar 2019 #18
Why? moose65 Mar 2019 #25
I think it depends on what kind of schedule you have. janx Mar 2019 #46
I don't care which way, just get rid of the change. Yeehah Mar 2019 #60
I'm with ya. NT Adrahil Mar 2019 #21
Most respectfully disagree. Yes, the clock-forward switch is tougher than clocks-back, BUT... VOX Mar 2019 #22
Let me ask you folks a question moose65 Mar 2019 #24
I prefer keeping it on DST and having more sunlight in the evenings year round. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #31
I like DST but I think it's to long......... Bengus81 Mar 2019 #43
I Really can't afford the lost hour today. empedocles Mar 2019 #27
Standard time year round here in AZ DesertRat Mar 2019 #28
I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!! Separation Mar 2019 #30
simple: shoot your clocks Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #33
Cute. Some of us have jobs, Codeine Mar 2019 #41
curses! foiled again. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #57
This was me this morning. OhZone Mar 2019 #45
It sucks and is no longer needed. Delphinus Mar 2019 #49
I LOVE DST!!!!! chillfactor Mar 2019 #51
Hawaii does just fine on Standard Time year round, and I wish we'd follow suit. I'm retired & catbyte Mar 2019 #52
The last thing I need in L.A. is MORE SUN! Basic LA Mar 2019 #53
If you hate Springing..might I suggest Southern Arizona? 🌵☀️ MLAA Mar 2019 #54
LMAO I called it yesterday! Separation Mar 2019 #61
We have to wait till 31st March to 'Spring Forward' in the UK BritVic Mar 2019 #62

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
29. That's my reason for hoping that if we decide to stop torturing ourselves twice a year
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 04:44 PM
Mar 2019

that we stick with this time...so we can have the longer evenings in the spring and early summer.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
56. I love the seemingly simple solution
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:18 PM
Mar 2019

Fall back as normal... gain an hour of sleep.

Spring forward... but do it at 4pm on Friday. Nobody loses any sleep.

Yes, it would mess with some things (train schedules, etc.) - but on balance wouldn’t be the issue it is today.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
58. That's actually a very good idea.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:26 PM
Mar 2019

The more delicate of constitution have the entire weekend to recover from the indescribable horror of losing sixty whole minutes and the rest just get an early start on whatever they’ve got planned for Friday night!

I mean sure, Friday night is just a book with the cat in my lap here, but I’ve read that some people go out and do fun stuff.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
13. Me too
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:43 PM
Mar 2019

I’d much rather have the longer days in the summer when one can enjoy it. Around here, the sun sets at about 8:45 pm at the latest. Love it!

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
8. Do we need sunrise at 4:45 am and trash trucks banging carts around at that time??
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:56 AM
Mar 2019

Jesus...I've never seen so many lately that can't stand DST even when 95% of the clocks and devices I have change automatically and back again. Civil twilight (first light) where I live would be at 4:38 am by early June. Trash trucks would be out and dumping trash at that time. And of course here they wouldn't let evillll ole' Guberment tell a BIG CORPORATION like Waste Connections they can't dump trash when it's light outside.

IMO it starts too soon and goes off too late but otherwise I'll take the extra hour in the evening instead of sunrise at a ridiculous time for several months.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
11. DST was for farms
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:28 AM
Mar 2019

Now it's just a bunch of people who like to sleep late and work from 9 to 6. There's no reason for it

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
39. Uhhh no,it was also for kids like myself who played baseball........
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

And....didn't have all the fancy lighted fields to play on.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
26. Trash trucks in my city often come at 4:38 am, whether or not it's dark.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

One of my cats always wakes me up in alarm, whenever she hears them.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
4. I agree. It does more damage and little good. It was
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:13 AM
Mar 2019

necessary in agrarian age. Now, there is no need for it; it destabilizes the body for weeks.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
19. "Destabilizes the body for weeks"?
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:15 PM
Mar 2019

Oh come on, it’s an hour. It feels a bit weird on Monday morning, by Tuesday it has ceased to be an issue. It’s hardly destabilizing, and certainly not something that would realistically impact anyone for even a few days, let alone weeks or months.

At a certain point folks start to sound hysterical.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
20. You may not have an issue. But, for people with sleep issues, like myself,
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 02:13 PM
Mar 2019

the time change feels like jet lag and it DOES take me weeks to feel normal again. I am glad you do not have an issue, but I do, and it's unpleasant.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. Are your sleep problem medical or are they you not being comfortable?
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:13 PM
Mar 2019

I had sleep problem when I was younger. I got to the point where I thought I had insomnia. One day I talked to a coworker, then I tried some of the things she suggested. A lot of people can't sleep because they ate too little or too much or something that was difficult to digest close (2-3 hours before) before bed. Some people are thirsty and don't realize that. Some people drink too much water an hour or two before bed. Some people are too hot or too cold in bed. Whenever I can't sleep, I run through a checklist and do some things, I am usually asleep within an hour unless I drank too much water within a couple of hours of bed, but even then, I get up, urinate and go right back to sleep.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
16. Months? Over an hour of lost sleep?
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:01 PM
Mar 2019

It takes me a couple of days, about the same time as it confuses our dogs about eating and going for walks time.

I can't see how it would take months. It's just an hour.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
59. You don't have to do it all at once, you know.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 08:34 PM
Mar 2019

If it really takes you months to recover, why not start making the shift ahead of time, so you can do it gradually? Go to bed and get up 2 minutes earlier each day for 30 days before DST starts. Seems like it would be worth the effort, if it really takes you months to recover from a one hour shift.

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
6. Golf. Squeeze in a round before dark. Kayak,yard work baseball more sunshine after work.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:27 AM
Mar 2019

Retired doesn't mean beans to me.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
7. I hate it also. and it makes me angry because there is no good reason for it now
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:36 AM
Mar 2019

but we keep doing it every year.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
9. But why is standard time any better?
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:12 AM
Mar 2019

On standard time if you’re north of the Mason-Dixon Line, it starts to get dark at 3:30 in the afternoon in December. I would find THAT depressing! Standard Time isn’t any more “natural” than DST. Clocks are a human invention. I guess I just don’t understand all the whining about “losing an hour.” We really didn’t lose anything! 🙄

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. The twice-annual whining over a single hour begins.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:22 AM
Mar 2019

It’s really not a big deal, folks. Get a grip.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
12. Haha! So true!
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:41 PM
Mar 2019

There seems to be a lot more whining about “losing an hour” in the spring than about “gaining” one in the fall! Either way, it seems silly to me 😉

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
23. That's because it is losing an hour that is actually harmful.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 02:56 PM
Mar 2019

The sleep deprivation is real, as are the consequences: increased heart attacks (which decrease with the fall back) & increase in car accidents (which also increase, but a day earlier with the fall back). So - on average, the spring forward is actually harmful. in a way that falling back is not.

There was a significant increase in accidents for the Monday immediately following the spring shift to DST (t=1.92, P=0.034). There was also a significant increase in number of accidents on the Sunday of the fall shift from DST (P<0.002).


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11152980

There was no difference in the total weekly number of PCIs performed for AMI for either the fall or spring time changes in the time period analysed. After adjustment for trend and seasonal effects, the Monday following spring time changes was associated with a 24% increase in daily AMI counts (p=0.011), and the Tuesday following fall changes was conversely associated with a 21% reduction (p=0.044). No other weekdays in the weeks following DST changes demonstrated significant associations.


https://openheart.bmj.com/content/1/1/e000019

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
17. Thank you. I'm going to fix it today with a one-hour nap
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:04 PM
Mar 2019

this afternoon. I've finished up my snow removal chores and my Sunday newspaper reading. So, I'm about to have lunch and then it's nap time. All the clocks have been changed. When I wake up this afternoon, I'll be all reset until next Fall.

It's just an hour. Now, if you fly to Europe, you have a six hour time change. That takes a day or two of adjustment. But an hour? Take a nap in the Spring and go to bed late in the Fall. Easy Peasy.

dpibel

(2,831 posts)
36. One wonders
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:12 PM
Mar 2019

how the people who are destroyed by the time change ever survive trans-time-zone travel.

Flying to Hawaii would, it seems, be an utter waste for them. Unless their vacation was weeks or months.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
38. It was flying FROM Hawaii that killed me!
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:15 PM
Mar 2019

And I’m not a time-change hater. Coming back from Hawaii (and Alaska too) was rough! I’ve never been so tired!

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
40. Hope those who hate DST don't travel across 4-6 time zones..........
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:18 PM
Mar 2019

They'll probably vapor lock on us and never make it back home................

Oneironaut

(5,495 posts)
55. A Genie said I could collect 1 billion dollars when it strikes 2 am on March 10th, 2019.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

What a jerk...

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
14. I do not like falling backward.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

I don't care for Standard Time. I wish the Florida Repub Senators all the best with their proposal to abolish Standard Time and just stay on Daylight Saving time all year. I hate agreeing with Republicans, but in this case...

janx

(24,128 posts)
46. I think it depends on what kind of schedule you have.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019

Many people tend to like more light in the evening. They may well be people who don't have to get up at 5:00 or so to get to work, the way I do. I'm away from home for 12 hours three days a week and work in the home office on the other two days.

I don't like going to work in the dark. When I come home, I'm wiped, so I'm not anxious to kayak or tackle yard work at that time. Seriously, when I get home after a 9 hour workday and a lengthy commute, the last thing I'm going to do is to fire up the BBQ and frolic in the yard.

Similarly, working parents with school-age kids would probably appreciate more light in the mornings since they have to get themselves to work and their kids to school.

Keep it on standard time year-round.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
22. Most respectfully disagree. Yes, the clock-forward switch is tougher than clocks-back, BUT...
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 02:40 PM
Mar 2019

The longer days are welcome. It’s nice to have dinner with some remaining daylight, or take brisk walks in the early evening, and not be enveloped in darkness.

One additional positive: with your brain still oriented to Standard Time, during the next two weeks (give or take a day or two), your working days will seemingly pass with usual speed. You can exit your workplace and still have some daylight left for yourself.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
24. Let me ask you folks a question
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 04:08 PM
Mar 2019

Those of you who are saying that the time shift affects you for weeks or months - would you support staying on DST year round? Is it the actual Daylight Saving Time that bothers you, or the change from one to the other?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. I prefer keeping it on DST and having more sunlight in the evenings year round.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 05:36 PM
Mar 2019

I had a nice long nap today so hopefully tomorrow morning won't be any harsher than a normal Monday for me.

I don't like mornings anyway, so I don't care if it's darker in the morning. I'm more active in the evenings.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
43. I like DST but I think it's to long.........
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

Seems like back in the 60's it didn't start until that first or second Sunday in April. IMO it could start in April and go off in Oct instead of Nov. Goes off in 2019 on Nov 3rd.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
28. Standard time year round here in AZ
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 04:42 PM
Mar 2019

Only difference for us is when everyone else changes time it messes up our cable TV schedules...

Separation

(1,975 posts)
30. I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!!
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 05:19 PM
Mar 2019

I cannot tell you how much I hate falling back. I live about 50 miles west of the EST timezone. So when We fall back, it gets dark here at 3-3:30.

I would have to say that Trump is probably the president to take on getting rid of daylight saving time. Im sure he would only get around to doing it until he has had someone read to him the JFK files, given him access to the aliens at area 51, and finally proven once and for all that he has the biggest hands of all the Presidents.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,346 posts)
33. simple: shoot your clocks
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 05:55 PM
Mar 2019

Let the dog wake you; let sleepiness tell you when to go to bed.

Numbers on those damn devices mean little. Day and night are determined by the sun, not numbers.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
41. Cute. Some of us have jobs,
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:18 PM
Mar 2019

kids that need to get to school, and other responsibilities that require being in a specific place at a predetermined time.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
49. It sucks and is no longer needed.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 06:45 PM
Mar 2019

I live in Indiana and didn't have to deal with this for many years. Studies have shown it costs more money to have DST and it puts folks at risk.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
51. I LOVE DST!!!!!
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:02 PM
Mar 2019

I cannot understand why so many people get their noses out-of-joint over one hour on the clock. I wish we had DST year around.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
52. Hawaii does just fine on Standard Time year round, and I wish we'd follow suit. I'm retired &
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:08 PM
Mar 2019

I still hate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that Hawaii is closer to the equator and all that, but geez. I hate it being light at almost 10 pm. It's weird. I'm a night lover anyway, so it's just personal preference, I guess. When I worked, I was fine on Monday, but Tuesday & Wednesday were absolutely horrible.

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
53. The last thing I need in L.A. is MORE SUN!
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 07:10 PM
Mar 2019

Though I guess it's different in other regions. (Hawaii stays on Standard Time, as I wish we would.)

Separation

(1,975 posts)
61. LMAO I called it yesterday!
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 02:48 PM
Mar 2019

Trump endorses permanent daylight saving time

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-endorses-permanent-daylight-saving-time/ar-BBUDeZ7?li=BBnb7Kz

Im about to slowly swallow some throwup that I just yakked up from finally agreeing with Herr Cheeto in Chief policy.

BritVic

(262 posts)
62. We have to wait till 31st March to 'Spring Forward' in the UK
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 03:03 PM
Mar 2019

Frankly it cannot come quick enough for me. It depresses the hell out of me when we get to mid-December and have to endure darkness by 3.45 pm and barely 8 hours a day of light. Roll on the long midsummer days with light evenings till 11 pm!

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