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Ethiopian Airlines Crash Updates: E.U.s Biggest Economies Ban Boeing Max 8 Jets; Trump Says Planes Are Too Complex The European Unions three biggest economies Germany, Britain and France joined Ireland, Australia, Singapore, Malaysia and Oman in banning all Boeing 737 Max 8 planes from their airspaces on Tuesday. The decisions came two days after 157 people were killed on a Max 8 during a flight from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, to Nairobi, Kenya, and could cause considerable disruption to global air travel.
At least 27 airlines have now grounded the Max 8, which has crashed twice in five months. Roughly half of the Max 8 planes in operation are now idled.
Pressure escalated inside the United States for a grounding of the Max 8, despite the Federal Aviation Administrations declaration that the plane was considered safe. The union representing flight attendants at American Airlines, a heavy Max 8 user, urged management to strongly consider grounding these planes until a thorough investigation can be performed. Senators on opposite sides of the aisle, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Mitt Romney of Utah, also urged a grounding.
President Trump, weighing in for the first time, posted Twitter messages deploring what he described as the technological complexities of commercial aircraft. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT, Mr. Trump said. Much of what he asserted, however, was misleading or lacked context, aviation experts said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/world/africa/boeing-ethiopian-airlines-plane-crash.html
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Because it is always about him. Always. That is the first and only rule of Trump.
Kitchari
(2,166 posts)He doesn't understand it, but he thinks he does, therefore he proffers his useless opinion. "Pilots aren't needed"--HA! Tell that to Sully Sullenberger
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)...there is something wrong with every thing!
He understands nothing!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Hey, NYT! Why not say that Trump's response lacked humanity or compassion? Call it the unfocused ranting of an old man who doesn't grasp the problem? Plane crash! Trump confused and enraged! Trump SMASH, grrrr!
Why in the world does the Times need "aviation experts" to point out that what Trump said was 100% Nonsense?
malaise
(268,967 posts)His response was 100% absolute fuckery!!
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)He noted that the United States military sent a tremendous military hospital in the form of a ship to the island. That ship, however, was largely underused. Prepared to support 250 hospital beds, it admitted an average of only six patients per day, or 290 in total, over its 53-day deployment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/11/us/trump-puerto-rico-maria-response.html
And to answer your question, reliable media requires quotes and expert opinions to verify the reports or they cannot call it news. Although I am retired, I spent most of my career in media.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The Times may need unidentified aviation experts to contradict Trump's uninformed opinion about the complexity of flying an airplane. But no such expert opinion or outside quote is required to call Trump's unhinged tweet unhinged. That's an objective observation based directly on his unhinged tweet. The media have ceded their responsibility to report facts due to conservative squawks of media bias, whether those squawks are warranted or not. I would go so far as to call that concession by the media "craven," and feel I'm on solid, objective ground in doing so.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)Judges, juries and lawyers consider "expert opinions" as reliable evidence.
Without direct quotes or expert opinions, from sources, not associated with a particular news media, a story is nothing more than a writer's personal opinion, which also appears in newspapers, as editorials.
Professional criticisms of the news article include, burying the lead, which I featured in the headline seen by readers of Democratic Underground.
Also, Trump viciously attacks actual media because many sources report facts on his High Crimes and Treason. I wish news media was not owned or manipulated through advertising support by large corporations that are enjoying enormous tax cuts.
Especially television, and including online media has essentially become an "Opiate of the Masses" because it dramatically reduces the possibility of citizens exercising their right to peaceful protests against having criminals in Congress and the White House.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)In the other hand I have a hubcap.
CatWoman
(79,301 posts)real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)While over thirty nations had grounded the passenger aircraft, the USA and Trump still claims the aircraft is safe enough to carry passengers.
CatWoman
(79,301 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)As it is, the Trump shutdown is directly responsible for the delay in the fix to the aircraft.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)Although DHS related agencies (especially the entire US Coast Guard, which saves sinking passenger vessels and prevents a massive amount of dangerous drug-smuggling) were supposedly the target of the recent "Nuclear Option;" why did FBI and IRS agents also miss their checks for two weeks?
Who thinks that these shutdowns caused all of the agencies to lose highly qualified recruits to private industry?
Instead of a ripple effect, didn't the recent shutdown have more of a Tsunami Effect on the entire economy?