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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:23 PM Mar 2019

Data and Voice Recorders Are Recovered in Ethiopian Airlines Crash

• The newest version of Boeing’s most popular jet is under intensified scrutiny after the deadly crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 on Sunday, leading that carrier and at least 17 others around the world to ground their 737 Max 8 planes. But at least 18 carriers, including American Airlines and Southwest Airlines, which are heavy users of the Max 8, continued to fly them on Monday.

• The Federal Aviation Administration in the United States, in a “continued airworthiness notification,” said that the investigation had just begun and that it did not have information to draw any conclusions or take any action — meaning the agency still considered the Max 8 safe to fly. But pilots and flight attendants in the United States raised questions about the Max 8’s safety.

• While investigators have not determined the cause of the crash, the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder have both been recovered, Ethiopian Airlines said. Some circumstances of the crash were similar to one in October in Indonesia that killed 189 people.

• Aviation experts expressed surprise at the vast disparity in experience in the two-person cockpit crew. Ethiopian Airlines said the pilot of Flight 302 had 8,000 hours of flying time but the co-pilot had just 200.

• The pilot sent out a distress call before the crash, which killed all 157 people aboard. The victims, en route from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, to Nairobi, Kenya, were from more than 35 countries and included at least 22 employees of United Nations-affiliated agencies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/world/boeing-737-max-air-crash-ethiopia.html

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Data and Voice Recorders Are Recovered in Ethiopian Airlines Crash (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
I do hope moondust Mar 2019 #1
Well, at link, food for thought...first link..leads to second link - based on your question... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2019 #2
Thanks. moondust Mar 2019 #4
At The Air Current..a real eye opener.. so they want to blame the pilots....nope.... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2019 #3

moondust

(19,981 posts)
1. I do hope
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 04:04 PM
Mar 2019

these problems were not created by Boeing management trying to maximize profits by hiring some cheap labor someplace who may not have understood fully what they were doing but did the work anyway because they wanted/needed the money.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
4. Thanks.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 06:29 PM
Mar 2019

I don't know about aircraft design and engineering but I remember some years ago there was concern that airlines were doing too much maintenance offshore (on the cheap) where ground crews may not be as fully trained.

Apr 6, 2018
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“There is not only an economic expense due to the loss of 8,200 jobs that should go to American kids rather than to foreign countries, but [offshore work] also exposes air travelers to unnecessary risk,” Samuelsen said. “We should be going the opposite direction, moving jobs back onto American soil where the airlines can exercise more control.”
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2018/04/06/amount-of-outsourced-offshore-airline-maintenance-work-has-risen-report-says/

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