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Kingofalldems

(38,475 posts) Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:41 PM Mar 2019

As far as NY charges go--is there not double jeopardy?

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As far as NY charges go--is there not double jeopardy? (Original Post) Kingofalldems Mar 2019 OP

Separate offenses, separate jurisdictions, separate laws. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #1

psst... hlthe2b Mar 2019 #5

That's okay. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #6

Actually NYS's Constitution currently bans state-federal double-jeopardy prosecutions... Princess Turandot Mar 2019 #7

Isn't NY State legislature working at this moment to eliminate double jeopardy? fierywoman Mar 2019 #2

Pundits say Manafort has good double jeopardy argument if Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #3

No elleng Mar 2019 #4

Um, Double-Jeopardy applies when you're ACQUITTED... brooklynite Mar 2019 #8

Like I've said before, don't mess with this woman. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2019 #9

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)

1. Separate offenses, separate jurisdictions, separate laws.

Reply to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:42 PM

Mar 2019

Prior federal convictions don't count.

So, no.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)

5. psst...

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:48 PM

Mar 2019

separate (sorry, I don't mean to be annoying)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)

6. That's okay.

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:49 PM

Mar 2019

It didn't look right to me after I posted, either.

"Separate" is one of those words that for whatever reason remains a bane of my existence.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)

7. Actually NYS's Constitution currently bans state-federal double-jeopardy prosecutions...

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:51 PM

Mar 2019

so prior federal convictions do count. I assume that they looked for crimes which they do not believe are the same as his federal convictions.

fierywoman

(7,694 posts)

2. Isn't NY State legislature working at this moment to eliminate double jeopardy?

Reply to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:43 PM

Mar 2019

Sneederbunk

(14,300 posts)

3. Pundits say Manafort has good double jeopardy argument if

Reply to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:44 PM

Mar 2019

elements of crimes are same as federal crimes.

elleng

(131,102 posts)

4. No

Reply to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:46 PM

Mar 2019

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)

8. Um, Double-Jeopardy applies when you're ACQUITTED...

Reply to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:55 PM

Mar 2019

Manafort was CONVICTED and is equally liable to State charges.

DinahMoeHum

(21,809 posts)

9. Like I've said before, don't mess with this woman. . .

Reply to Kingofalldems (Original post)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:01 PM

Mar 2019

Letitia (Tish) James, AG of NY

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