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1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:06 AM Aug 2012

Please take a look at this map and tell me if you see what I see

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?ind=118&cat=2

The link above is to a map of the country that has the states colored to show the rate at which people die in automobile accidents in each state. I am amazed to notice how much more dangerous it seems to be to drive in what are traditionally Republican states compared to those which go for Democrats.

Maybe I'm just trying to see to much in the picture, but that's sure how it looks to me. What say you?
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Please take a look at this map and tell me if you see what I see (Original Post) 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 OP
In Blue states, there is less standing up in the beds of moving pickup trucks klook Aug 2012 #1
You have made me laugh like nothing else in days and days. Thank you very much!!! 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #4
You're welcome! klook Aug 2012 #20
Rural areas, higher speeds, more deadly crashes CreekDog Aug 2012 #2
That's it. This is an urban/rural divide. yardwork Aug 2012 #8
Lots of teens get behind the wheel driving at higher speeds in rural areas too. nc4bo Aug 2012 #10
Yup. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #17
Interesting, and in my case true. Not Me Aug 2012 #3
Republicans are bad drivers? annabanana Aug 2012 #5
I guess being pissed off all the time detracts from one's driving ability 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #9
I'd attribute it to anger LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #6
Exercising their freedom from seat belts BlueStreak Aug 2012 #7
Maybe it has to do with the generally aggressive, Fuck You attitudes Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #11
Two things come to mind . . . R. P. McMurphy Aug 2012 #12
I think intelligence and attitude have a lot to do with it. YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #13
It's my experience that people who are not confident drivers want bigger vehicles.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #15
That and I think it helps them to compensate... YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #18
In fairness to some of these states, this is to be expected cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #14
Deaths per 100,000 of populations may not... meaculpa2011 Aug 2012 #16
"death-per-miles-driven" Yep. jberryhill Aug 2012 #19
Agreed rock Aug 2012 #23
I know, I'll be blasted for saying it, but I live in a red Southern state and it's sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #21
A friend of mine made a comment that, while driving to SC, as soon...... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #22
2 lane blacktop with 50mph or higher limit One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #24

klook

(12,159 posts)
1. In Blue states, there is less standing up in the beds of moving pickup trucks
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:08 AM
Aug 2012

and hollering "Hey, y'all! Watch this!!"

klook

(12,159 posts)
20. You're welcome!
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:00 AM
Aug 2012

And I have lived all my life in the Deep South, so I know what I'm talking about.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
10. Lots of teens get behind the wheel driving at higher speeds in rural areas too.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:14 AM
Aug 2012

Sad, happens alot out here.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
17. Yup.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:28 AM
Aug 2012

I live in SC, the state ranked #4 on that list. The vast majority of the fatal wrecks around here are on the country roads. They take curves too fast, and either go off the road into a tree or ditch. Or, they hit an oncoming vehicle head-on, because they drove into the other lane. They blow off stop signs. They often don't wear seat belts. And, there is frequently alcohol involved. They also like to pull out from driveways and side roads right into traffic. I know someone who totaled his vehicle when someone did this to him. The guy couldn't wait 20 seconds for him to pass, and pulled out in front of him. My friend's choice was to head for the ditch or T-bone them. He chose the ditch and rolled his truck. Fortunately, he and his daughter came out of the incident with only minor injuries. I have come close to having this happen to me on a regular basis. No one behind me for miles, yet they can't wait 30 seconds for me to go by before they pull out into the road.

We do, BTW, get a number of deaths on the Interstates. Speed, lack of seat belts, driving will talking on cell phone/texting all contribute to those.

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
3. Interesting, and in my case true.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:09 AM
Aug 2012

I have lived most of my life in New York and Hawaii...both considered 'low' death rates according to the map.
While living in both places, I had never been involved in a car mishap.

I have lived in Florida for nine years, and been involved in 2 crashes. People drive very aggressively here (in Orlando.)

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
6. I'd attribute it to anger
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:11 AM
Aug 2012

Republicans strike me as people perpetually seething with anger, and they drive accordingly.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Maybe it has to do with the generally aggressive, Fuck You attitudes
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:15 AM
Aug 2012

or right-wingers. You know--the ones who drive Suburbans & Hummers & act as if the roads were their private property. If you don't have some leavening of sane drivers willing to grant the right of way according to the rules, I could see where thare would be a lot more accidents.

R. P. McMurphy

(835 posts)
12. Two things come to mind . . .
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:16 AM
Aug 2012

1) Less affluence in these states means that people are driving older, less safe cars.

2) Less access to public transportation means that a higher percentage of the population are in cars.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
13. I think intelligence and attitude have a lot to do with it.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:18 AM
Aug 2012

Republicans tend to think driving is a write instead of a privilege. They also are self involved and their world ends at the tip of their nose. Democrats tend to pay attention to the world around them and know that driving isn't a right. I notice the larger the vehicle people drive the douchier driver they tend to be.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. It's my experience that people who are not confident drivers want bigger vehicles..
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:22 AM
Aug 2012

Poor drivers often like a large vehicle where they are up high because it makes them feel safer.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
14. In fairness to some of these states, this is to be expected
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:19 AM
Aug 2012

The appalachian states on the map have hazardous mountain roads and low state road budgets, so that is a state priorities issue to some degree... but still, those mountains are intrinsically dangerous, so some higher rate would be expected in any scenario. The same inattention that leads to a fender-bender in Florida can lead to flying off a half-mile cliff in WV.

For the western states, a higher fatality rate is an unexceptional trade off. The map is deaths per capita. Montana, for instance, doesn't have a lot of deaths in raw numbers because hardly anybody lives in montana. But the average person in Montana logs a LOT of miles. It's 100 miles to the 7-11. It's 100 miles to anything.

And if you constantly have to drive 100s of miles in the middle of nowhere you drive very fast, and with good reason. Otherwise you will spend your whole life driving. Those wide-open states have higher speed limits, and almost everyone's quality of life would be degraded if they didn't.

Wide open spaces have their benefits and their problems. A higher per capita driving fatality rate is baked in the cake.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
16. Deaths per 100,000 of populations may not...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:27 AM
Aug 2012

be the best measure. I'm not certain, but I believe the highest death-per-miles-driven is in New Jersey. More cars, less road, more accidents.

sinkingfeeling

(51,464 posts)
21. I know, I'll be blasted for saying it, but I live in a red Southern state and it's
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:16 AM
Aug 2012

like everything else here: ignorance. I would say less than 50% can make a right-hand turn and without crossing into another lane. And you should see the left-hand ones. We all know to set a car-length back from an intersection. Most local fatalities are from head-on collisions.
They don't know how to drive. And will not use seat belts. Or obey speed limits.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
22. A friend of mine made a comment that, while driving to SC, as soon......
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:27 AM
Aug 2012

as they crossed the Mason Dixon line heading south they started seeing a lot of broken down cars on the road. Enough to make him wonder if they just couldn't afford to take care of their vehicles or what. He made that comment last week.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
24. 2 lane blacktop with 50mph or higher limit
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
Aug 2012

Your most dangerous roads are undivided highways. Just what you find in rural areas but not so much in more populated area's.

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