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GasBuddy Reveals Top Cities with the Most Aggressive Drivers
Los Angeles drivers 22% more aggressive than average US driver
Rank Metro Percentage of More/Less Aggressive Driving Than Average US Driver
1 Los Angeles 21.98%
2 Philadelphia 21.83%
3 Sacramento 21.53%
4 Atlanta 20.26%
5 San Francisco 19.02%
6 San Diego 17.57%
7 Orlando 9.33%
8 Detroit 7.81%
9 Austin 6.53%
10 Las Vegas 6.44%
11 Charlotte 6.17%
12 Pittsburgh 5.30%
13 Phoenix 4.82%
14 Boston 4.34%
15 Dallas-Fort Worth 4.07%
16 Chicago 3.14%
17 Miami-Fort Lauderdale 2.54%
18 Baltimore 2.42%
19 Tampa-St. Petersburg 2.08%
20 Washington D.C. -0.15%
21 San Antonio -1.24%
22 Houston -1.37%
23 New York -1.94%
24 Kansas City -2.33%
25 St. Louis -3.00%
26 Denver -3.16%
27 Portland, OR -4.44%
28 Cincinnati -6.13%
29 Seattle -10.23%
30 Minneapolis-St. Paul -12.59%
https://business.gasbuddy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/GasBuddy_Cities_Aggressive_Drivers_US_2019_Report.pdf
Takket
(21,563 posts)my city is at #8
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I figured San Francisco would be at or near the top. I haven't driven there for years, but I learned quickly that concepts like "merging" and "yielding the right of way" were not recognized in the Bay Area. I did okay for the limited time I was visiting, but there was always a bit of a learning curve when I came back for another visit. SF drivers aren't rude, per se, but a limited amount of highway space for a large number of vehicles means you have to stake your place in traffic. Nobody's going to give it to you.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I grew up in the Bay....and it's funny how it is something you don't forget. I've been a 2 lane road girl for the last 20 years, but this weekend held my own through the bay and merging and all of it...
My "defensive driving" instincts are still there RAWR!
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)I've never seen a place except the Bay Area where people merging onto the freeway from an onramp cut into the freeway lane, expecting cars already on the road to give way to them. Dear people, it's the other way around! There's a new English word you might want to look up called "yield."
Also it's quite incredible how drivers race up and down the steep hills in the area and tailgate like crazy.
Love the area, but the driving here is insane.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Philadelphia. #2 on this list.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)freeway are in a merge situation, not a yield, as the onramp to the freeway is considered a freeway lane. That blew me away too; I was on the losing end of a friendly bet on this
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Yipes, I guess I need to stop yelling at them then!
On a recent trip in a very large RV, it really was a problem, as I constantly had to be shifting our huge rental rig at onramps to allow cars to enter the lane that were not yielding.
But if that's law, that makes it different. It's funny, though, when I try this, everyone honks at me!
moonscape
(4,673 posts)drivers handbook because theres a lot of confusuion on it. They also need to be more clear in the code. When they talk about yielding when entering a road/highway, its obviously correct when its in any situation that doesnt involve a ramp. When I was reading on this, trying to win my bet, I learned not all cops are clear on it either.
The truth outs when liability is an issue
watoos
(7,142 posts)and I drove the LA freeways.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)I'm surprised Denver only ranks 26th. I'm guessing this did not include the front range commuters or it would surely have jumped well up the rankings.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that NYC is not in the top five of the list. Maybe if they considered NJ drivers...
JHB
(37,159 posts)tavernier
(12,383 posts)busses and passenger vans. With so much public trans, why drive?
mitch96
(13,895 posts)You can cut off off by cabs but don't mess with busses... The biggest boat has the right of way.. Speaking of right of way the old junkers always won the stoplight grand prix. They did not care if they got a dent or lost a fender.. Mercedes would always back down...
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customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)And the vast majority of those drivers are indeed aggressive. That should count, too.
I question the methodology used to find the numbers in the OP.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)And Im from Philadelphia. I95 north of the city scared even me.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Mariana
(14,856 posts)The younger generations of drivers are much more considerate. My dad used to work in downtown Boston, and he is absolutely amazed at how tame the drivers are now.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)To cue up, and always abide the "first come" rule. I get annoyed in other places, like Europe, with line jumpers.
We also don't worry about being robbed in NYC. I was robbed twice in Rome. It's a national hobby.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)PatSeg
(47,419 posts)We moved from Chicago to Sacramento and we found drivers in Sacramento far less aggressive and more considerate than in Chicago. People seemed more laid back in Sac.
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)Im from Chicago and think the drivers there are assholes. No one wants to let you merge and Ive been cut off so many times Ive lost track. There are some aggressive drivers inL.A., but overall, Ive found the city and the state of California to be much more courteous in general than Illinois.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)I know what you mean about asshole drivers who won't let you merge and cut you off. We attributed the more courteous drivers in Sac to the year round pleasant weather. People seemed more relaxed.
The Jeff
(6 posts)He has a dashcam on his postal vehicle and posts stupid drivers he sees on Facebook.
EtA: Mailman friend is originally from New York City so he knows aggressive drivers.
Oh and a recent visit to Atlanta also confirms their rankings. Too many HERO vehicles on the highways cleaning up messes.
has been the Indy 500 since the first time I drove there 30 years ago.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)who act like they're in training for NASCAR. But, most here are polite.
Hassler
(3,377 posts)Is like a NASCAR race.
Aristus
(66,328 posts)Drivers here aren't aggressive; they're passive-aggressive.
Some knothead will drive as slow as possible in the fast lane, holding up as many people as he can. Once the car behind him is able to overtake the screening car in the slow lane, shift over, then get ahead of the slow lead driver, then the slow driver starts to drive fast, as if resenting that there is at least one car he can no longer hinder. It's like a freeway pathology here.
StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)I gave up and moved close to work.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Just wondering.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Red lights in Miami mean accelerate and go through, even if it's been red 5 seconds. I always have to warn visiting friends that they can't treat newly turned green lights the same way as back home. Traffic is still charging from left and right.
I don't agree with all the California cities at the top of the list
mitch96
(13,895 posts)So true.. I have to look both ways 2 or 3 times before moving thru an intersection. Seen too many pickups blast thru red light intersections with the driver looking down at his/her phone.
Stop signs are to be taken as a suggestion and using directional signals are a sign of weakness... It's just amazing driving from Broward County into Miami Dade county once you cross County Line Road the whole mindset of the traffic changes... uff.
I don't see too much problem with Orlando. Every time I drive on I-4 it's either stopped or moving at 4 mph.. I hate that area...
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Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)So true again. Just last night I had to stop at a T while turning left. There was no stop sign for them, and a procession coming from my left. I knew darn well all of them would be turning right. It is a major street. But I had to sit there and wait for a wide gap because none of the right turners were bothering to signal. When I finally threw up my hands at one guy he laughed in delight while turning the corner in front of me.
Also, zig zag driving to squeeze through narrow gaps and save 5 feet is applauded. I get that every day on Bird Road and Miller Road.
When I drive south while returning from a trip I always have to remind myself to be extra careful once I reach Miami or thereabouts. It is incredible how the traffic pattern changes. Instead of straight ahead calm all of a sudden it is slashing angles from all directions. I literally say out loud, "Just get me home."
The I-4 problem area is just east of the city. They drive like nuts there. I am in panic mode just like I-95 near Miami. But as you indicate, I-4 in Orlando itself is such a slowdown it is more a nuisance than dangerous. I attended the Bay Hill golf tournament two weeks ago and the shuttle bus drivers back to the Universal parking lot were joking on speaker about everyone enjoying their upcoming experience on I-4.
My gripe with Orlando is toll roads. I am still not accustomed to that, after living in Las Vegas for 24 years. My sister lives in the Winter Garden area of Orlando. I literally spend more on tolls in 5 days in Orlando than all year in Miami. I get stuck on that 429 toll road seemingly no matter where I am going. Cha-ching.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)Get a sun pass.. You just slow down at the toll plaza and sail thru.. I wish they had a national toll pass.. Around DC it's a mess. Go, stop, pay toll, repeat...Go, stop, pay toll, repeat...
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Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)The balance never changes in Miami. As soon as I get to Orlando it's one $1.40 charge after another on that 429, and suddenly my Sun Pass account is being automatically reloaded more than once on each trip.
BTW, Sun Pass is being linked to E-Z Pass in other states. They have been slow to do that but it is gradually happening now. A few states are newly on board with more to follow. That would be a huge help to me because I normally have at least one annual trip up the eastern seaboard and back.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)Well shut my mouth..... I did not know Orlando was a high rent district!! I hardly ever go up there so I did not notice the extra charges..
I'm heading up to LonGiland next year and I'm dreading the DC traffic. I wasted more time around there. Damn GPS sent me chasing wild gooses thru the town.. I'm going to plot my route around the city even if its' a bit longer ride... Maybe the Chesapeake bay bridge route?
I have homework to do..
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mainer
(12,022 posts)I've lived in San Diego and San Francisco. Never have I encountered such A-hole drivers as in Bosotn.
soryang
(3,299 posts)"Interstate 4 is the deadliest highway in America with 1.25 deaths per mile from 2011 to 2015."
They are referring to the section from Daytona Beach to Orlando. I've driven in 47 states, and think it's worse than Atlanta.
The drivers around Orlando are suicidal.
https://www.fleetowner.com/safety/25-most-deadly-highways-us
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)No.
The pdf file is dated 2019.
GasBuddy_Cities_Aggressive_Drivers_US_2019_Report.pdf
soryang
(3,299 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)the two cities where I have lived most of my life are in the top 6 (Phila and San Diego). I drive fast and brake hard but I never tailgate, cut anyone off, always use my directionals and always give a "thank you wave" when someone lets me in front of them (Seinfeld car etiquette). I also have good reflexes.
Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)I'm from the midworst, and have relatives out there. When I visit I'm surprised at how friendly/laid back it is for a big city.
BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)Philly being #2 has been big news here... but really shouldn't be "news".
From what I understand, they are including the "metro" area so we have 5 rim counties around the county/city of Philadelphia and apparently a number of those counties and their towns/townships have been carrying out carrying out car stops for aggressive/distracted driving - https://kywnewsradio.radio.com/articles/news/philadelphia-area-police-make-special-effort-targeting-aggressive-drivers
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I would generally disagree, though it was startling the first few times that motorcycles roared past my rental basically driving on the dotted line that separates the lanes.
However, I overall found the drivers in the area pretty polite - I noticed in my mirrors that as soon as I flipped on my signal to change lanes that the person behind me in that lane immediately slowed down to let me into their lane. I can't imagine that happening in CT, MA, NY or NJ.
Of course, we had rented what was supposed to be a small SUV, but when we got to the rental car place they were out of small SUVs so they gave us a free upgrade to a tank - a Cadillac Escalade. So, that might have played a part in people being so receptive to me changing lanes. (Of course, years ago, I had a mini-van and it did not have that effect)
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I lived there for years and then visited frequently from Las Vegas. My summary would be identical to yours...drivers generally polite.
But Honolulu is on an entirely different level than anywhere else I have driven. That entire island was smiling while waving me ahead and insisting I go before them, even when I didn't want to.
dlk
(11,561 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)no matter where they live, are convinced their city is home to the worst drivers. It's my observation that there are crappy drivers and good drivers everywhere.
I live in Santa Fe, and I have never been in a city where people so regularly run red lights. Anytime I'm elsewhere I'm amazed that people actually stop when the light is yellow, rather than continuing on through long after they've gotten the red.
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)1. Seattle, home of the "I will impose a 25 mph limit on you by deliberately driving slowly in a 30 mph zone" technique. "20 is plenty"!