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Florida prosecutors offer to drop solicitation charges against Kraft (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2019 OP
Is this common for this offense? Or is this yet another example of a two-tiered justice system? DontBooVote Mar 2019 #1
It was described as "unusual" in the headline on my phone. RandySF Mar 2019 #2
the latter I'm sure shanny Mar 2019 #4
Alford plea underpants Mar 2019 #5
That is the dumbest thing I've read all day. And I've been on Twitter! "I'm innocent but the DontBooVote Mar 2019 #9
47 states have some form of it. Saves prosecution time anmoney. underpants Mar 2019 #10
I guess now we'll just have to see if it is applied evenly, as stupid as it is. DontBooVote Mar 2019 #11
No and yes. Lochloosa Mar 2019 #6
Was this misreported? Sanity Claws Mar 2019 #3
Man! And they caught him red handed underpants Mar 2019 #7
As long as they do this for everyone they rounded up ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #8

underpants

(182,788 posts)
5. Alford plea
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:20 PM
Mar 2019

An Alford plea (also called a Kennedy plea in West Virginia,[1] an Alford guilty plea[2][3][4] and the Alford doctrine),[5][6][7] in United States law, is a guilty plea in criminal court,[8][9][10] whereby a defendant in a criminal case does not admit to the criminal act and asserts innocence.[11][12][13] In entering an Alford plea, the defendant admits that the evidence presented by the prosecution would be likely to persuade a judge or jury to find the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alford_plea

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
9. That is the dumbest thing I've read all day. And I've been on Twitter! "I'm innocent but the
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:37 PM
Mar 2019

evidence would show otherwise."

Holy fucking shit.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
10. 47 states have some form of it. Saves prosecution time anmoney.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:48 PM
Mar 2019

Indiana Michigan New Jersey and the Armed Forces don’t have it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Alford_plea_usage

I know it was used by at least one person in the Charlottesville garage beating

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
3. Was this misreported?
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:14 PM
Mar 2019

What is he admitting that he would have been guilty of, if the charges are dropped? Something sounds off here.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. As long as they do this for everyone they rounded up ...
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:31 PM
Mar 2019

Not just the uber-high-profile rich folks they rounded up, I guess I'm okay with this. Not a big fan of prostitution being a criminal offense.

I also suspect that the whole 'sex quota with 1400 men/year, forced to live at the spa, cook on hot plates, and sleep on massage beds' story we were first told ... will fall apart on further inspection, as will (likely) the trafficking charges in general.

My main reason for thinking that is that these spas were mostly in suburban strip malls. They are not going to be properly equipped as facilities for multiple people to be living in full-time. You have both government inspectors, AND the property owners who would be checking out the property regularly. It would be very obvious to either if you had, say, 10 women LIVING at the spa and never leaving.

And then there's your other paying tenants, who would not appreciate inevitable signs of blight that would result from people being improperly housed in these businesses.

You might be able to pull off something like (what we were told was going on) in the run-down parts of big cities, but not in Florida suburban strip malls.

I'll be quite surprised, put it like that.

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