Teachers are being used for target practice in Indiana

[Generic Other]

Link to tweet

During active shooter drill, four teachers at a time were taken into a room, told to crouch down and were shot execution style with some sort of projectiles - resulting in injuries to the extent that welts appeared, and blood was drawn.

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The teachers were terrified, but were told not to tell anyone what happened. Teachers waiting outside that heard the screaming were brought into the room four at a time and the shooting process was repeated.

[Ferrets are Cool]

1. Lawsuit!

Teachers have to go through enough SHIT without having to be traumatized by idiots.

[Miguel M]

2. What the hell???????

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. What next? What has this nation become?

[gratuitous]

5. We've become what we always were

We will do anything - and that means anything, including shooting teachers - rather than regulate firearms.

[SWBTATTReg]

3. I got a feeling that someone's going to get fired over this perhaps too realistic recreation of ...

an active shooter scenario. What benefit is derived from this type of play acting scenario? Good grief.

[Blues Heron]

4. People are just so fucking dumb sometimes

so utterly utterly dumb. You don't shoot anybody ever unless the intent is to harm.

[enough]

24. Not dumb, sadistic. NT

[Iggo]

27. Also, dumb.

[Generic Other]

6. I have had to endure some stupid ideas

after a career in education, but this takes the cake!

[MissB]

7. Seriously?

Way to create a group of traumatized teachers.

[packman]

8. Times I would love to be a lawyer

Sue the idiots that thought of this "learning" experience.

[FiveGoodMen]

9. For those at work who can't read tweets...

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/

[Generic Other]

16. OMG this is disgusting

"The White County sheriff said Thursday that his department has conducted similar training before but, after receiving a complaint, will no longer use the air-powered device, called an airsoft gun, with teachers.

Teachers at Meadowlawn Elementary School were supposed to be receiving what is called ALICE training, an "options-based" approach that encourages students and teachers to be proactive in their response to an active shooter and teaches tactics that include rushing a shooter in some situations.

Thousands of schools across the country, including many in Indiana, are using ALICE already. Shooting teachers with plastic pellets is not typically part of the training.

'This is not normal practice'"

I feel like I fell down the rabbithole!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. What, exactly, is the goal of this exercise?

[MissB]

13. How to die quietly?

What to expect when a shooter brings you into a room?

[Generic Other]

17. The teachers are supposed to attack the attackers

and kick the crap out of them. I would certainly have been sorely tempted.

[DBoon]

26. to intimidate public employees

let them know they are expendable in case they get ideas otherwise

[area51]

34. +1

But even non-public employees are expendable; it's why we don't have healthcare as a basic human right in this country.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

29. as it always is -- to make a profit

It's the enhanced user experience brought to you by wingnuts, incorporated!

[Turbineguy]

11. Knowing how to get shot is a useful skill in NRAmerica

[Maru Kitteh]

12. Those MRkers would be paying my PTSD-related damages for DECADES.

When I opened this topic I assumed it was a GD metaphor.

[Generic Other]

14. I suspect most teachers have the same reaction

It really defies belief. I wonder if it was Betsy De Vos' idea?

[struggle4progress]

15. Teachers shot with plastic pellets during active shooter training

Arika Herron, Indianapolis Star
Published 9:22 a.m. ET March 21, 2019
Updated 2:55 p.m. ET March 21, 2019

An active-shooter training exercise at an Indiana elementary school in January left teachers with welts, bruises and abrasions after they were shot with plastic pellets by the local sheriff’s office conducting the session.

The incident, acknowledged in testimony this week before state lawmakers, was confirmed by two elementary school teachers in Monticello, who described an exercise in which teachers were asked by local law enforcement to kneel down against a classroom wall before being sprayed across their backs with plastic pellets without warning.

“They told us, ‘This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing,’” said one of the two teachers, both of whom asked IndyStar not to be identified out of concern for their jobs. “They shot all of us across our backs. I was hit four times.

“It hurt so bad” ...

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/

[Generic Other]

21. In other words

execution style. G-damn.

[struggle4progress]

25. I wonder who can spell "sue them for battery"?

[struggle4progress]

18. Teachers shot repeatedly with airsoft guns

BY JUSTIN WISE - 03/21/19 11:37 AM EDT

... The Indiana State Teachers Association (ISTA) is now calling for this exercise to stop. Gail Zeheralis, director of government relations for the ISTA, asked lawmakers on Wednesday to alter language to a House bill that makes various changes to the Indiana safe schools grant program.

“What we're looking for is just a simple statement in this bill that would prohibit the shooting of some type of projectile at staff in an active shooter drill,” Zeheralis said in her testimony ...

The Star notes that Meadowlawn Elementary School teachers in January were intended to go through an exercise that calls for individuals to be proactive while responding to a shooter. Shooting teachers with pellet guns is not usually a part of the training, the Star reported.

Barbara Deardorff, an ISTA official, told the newspaper that she had never heard of teachers being shot with pellets during the exercise before the incident at Meadowlawn ...

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/435100-indiana-teachers-were-shot-repeatedly-with-airsoft-guns-in-active

[struggle4progress]

19. Teachers Shot With Plastic Pellets

By Madeline Will on March 21, 2019 2:07 PM

... Many school-safety consultants who work with districts pan efforts to make drills "more realistic." Some local law enforcement have used sounds of simulated gunfire, fake blood, and weapons. In some cases, those simulations involved students.

Some safety researchers and school psychologists have said those types of drills unnecessarily traumatize children and may actually make them less safe if they act dramatically in a real crisis situation. Outspoken school-safety consultant Kenneth Trump says ALICE training is not supported by evidence and "preys on the emotions of today's active shooter frenzy that is spreading across the nation" ...

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/teacherbeat/2019/03/indiana_teachers_active_shooter_drills.html

[MineralMan]

20. WTF?

And they kept coming in? I'd have told whoever was running that drill to piss off!

Whose idea was this, anyhow?

[Generic Other]

22. ALICE training

encourages students and teachers to be proactive in their response to an active shooter and teaches tactics that include rushing a shooter in some situations.

Thousands of schools across the country, including many in Indiana, are using ALICE already. Shooting teachers with plastic pellets is not typically part of the training.

[struggle4progress]

23. Active Shooter Drills Don't Really Prepare People, But They Do Make Them Cry

STEPHANIE MENCIMER
SEPTEMBER 5, 2014 2:58 PM

... “Active shooter” drills have become the norm in many school districts and downtown office buildings; in many schools, such drills are now mandated by the state. But it turns out that bringing SWAT teams into buildings to simulate an active shooter situation doesn’t always make people feel safer. In fact, according to the Wall Street Journal, such simulations have seriously traumatized and occasionally injured people, sparking a wave of lawsuits ...

... One involves a Colorado nursing home employee whom a man forced at gunpoint into an empty room at work. The “shooter” was actually a local cop and the gun was fake, but the nurse was so scared that even when the “shooter” finally identified himself as a cop after she started crying and begging for her life, she wasn’t really sure he was telling the truth. She was so traumatized that she had to quit her job and has since filed a lawsuit against the nursing home.

Active shooter drills often feature scary looking shooters with realistic looking guns who shoot plastic bullets or blanks at participants, who are then supposed to attack the shooter or at least throw things at him. But apparently, far from creating an army of first responders, these drills often leave teachers and other participants hysterical. Critics told the Journal that the exercises have left school employees and others more terrified and ill-equipped to deal with a real shooting than they would have been otherwise ...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/active-shooter-drills-lawsuits/

[Maru Kitteh]

28. Well no SHIT. Who could have seen that coming? A traumatic event causes trauma?

Worst idea EVER.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

30. looks like justification to kick the shit out of some fake shooters

[struggle4progress]

32. "I shot the sheriff but I swear it was in self-defense!"

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. that's it exactly!

First plastic bullet that makes contact, you turn and nail the perp in the gut and a second punch on the way down.

[nolabear]

31. Sue them. Sue everybody even remotely involved with this.

My GOD. The world has gone feral.

[struggle4progress]

33. +