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Does anyone else feel completely let down? (Original Post) Control-Z Mar 2019 OP
Snap out of it. greyl Mar 2019 #1
I will try. Control-Z Mar 2019 #6
You're welcome, and thanks for your reception. greyl Mar 2019 #8
But Mueller's team isn't releasing any indictments. OliverQ Mar 2019 #9
Andrea Mitchell: Keefer Mar 2019 #22
Zero evidence of any "sealed indictments" that have anything to do with this investigation. former9thward Mar 2019 #32
The sealed indictments were a fantasy. Codeine Mar 2019 #41
No. Not at all. We don't even know what's in the report, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #2
You are right. Control-Z Mar 2019 #10
Don't know enough yet, report doesn't say much don't think it will uponit7771 Mar 2019 #3
Right? Control-Z Mar 2019 #13
+1, Gates and Flynn and Cohen are still being processed don't see all the doors being shut at the uponit7771 Mar 2019 #17
on the contrary CatWoman Mar 2019 #4
Good! Control-Z Mar 2019 #16
"you" are not "DU" CatWoman Mar 2019 #18
Nope, Corgigal Mar 2019 #5
Not at all. H2O Man Mar 2019 #7
Nope sarisataka Mar 2019 #11
If what I just heard on CNN is accurate...then totally surprised. Reporter just now Nevermypresident Mar 2019 #12
This is how I've been thinking. Control-Z Mar 2019 #20
Nope, I view this as the beginning. Lars39 Mar 2019 #14
Right, this is the end of the beginning and onto 1432 other investigations. My worst thought of ... uponit7771 Mar 2019 #19
Seriously, the beginning of what? Nevermypresident Mar 2019 #24
We don't even know what's in the report, Lars39 Mar 2019 #25
If you are of the ilk that he should face repercussion for his Abuse of Power, etc. Nevermypresident Mar 2019 #35
The public has to be along every step of the way. Lars39 Mar 2019 #37
could be bdamomma Mar 2019 #40
There's still SDNY and Congressional investigations. octoberlib Mar 2019 #15
This only serves them. We don't know anything yet. nolabear Mar 2019 #21
Nope. BigDemVoter Mar 2019 #23
NOT i bluestarone Mar 2019 #26
But, but, but, Jerome Corsi said Mueller told him he was going to be indicted donkeypoofed Mar 2019 #27
Who cares what Corsi said? Codeine Mar 2019 #42
No. Now lets get into it and see what we got. pwb Mar 2019 #28
Sounds like a lot of whistling past the graveyard here to me... regnaD kciN Mar 2019 #29
I hate to admit it, but I am kind of agreeing with you here. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #34
No! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #30
thank you bdamomma Mar 2019 #43
Not even close, bdamomma. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #45
Yes. Let down. I don't know if that smug POS will be "vindicated" entirely... LincolnRossiter Mar 2019 #31
No Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #33
Not yet. Not close to yet. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #36
Not a bit. Codeine Mar 2019 #38
No because I never had any expectations.. nt Raine Mar 2019 #39
Nope Hekate Mar 2019 #44

greyl

(22,990 posts)
1. Snap out of it.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019

There are sealed indictments, other prosecutors in many states, and we don't know what the Report says.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
2. No. Not at all. We don't even know what's in the report,
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019

and Trump's behavior this past week has been unusually squirrelly, even for him - which at least suggests that he knows what's in it and that it isn't good for him. Anyhow, regardless of what's in it, there are many other investigations going on and they will continue.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
17. +1, Gates and Flynn and Cohen are still being processed don't see all the doors being shut at the
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:17 PM
Mar 2019

... least this is the end if the beginning.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
12. If what I just heard on CNN is accurate...then totally surprised. Reporter just now
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:15 PM
Mar 2019

said she was told that there will be no further indictments (of anyone) from Mueller's investigation. (including sealed indictments).



What about Don Jr, Kushner , Corsi, friends of trump on inauguration committee, etc. etc. etc.???!!? This is very difficult for me to understand.

Trump's pp. already saying that this Mueller report is going to "clear the decks" for them for the 2020 campaign.

If this is true, sure, we can hope for New York State to bring indictments etc., but, if so, how many years from now? 2 years, 6 years??

Constitution, what constitution?









uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. Right, this is the end of the beginning and onto 1432 other investigations. My worst thought of ...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:20 PM
Mar 2019

... Mueller would be Mueller shut the investigation down because Barr or Red Don told him to or didn't go into areas because he was told to.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
35. If you are of the ilk that he should face repercussion for his Abuse of Power, etc.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:34 PM
Mar 2019

and be removed from office - I have to disagree with your "This is just the beginning".

However, if you are of the ilk that you believe one day, after leaving office, he will face the consequences of his lifetime of dirty dealing, lying, possibly moneylaundering, etc. and that's what you believe by saying "This is just the beginning"...well, there's always hope.

However, the chances of trump being removed from office before 2020 and not running for president in 2020 have diminished considerably. IMO...this is more like the ending...not any beginning.

You can believe I'm being a debbie downer. That's fine.

However, IMO, I'm calling it like I see it.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
37. The public has to be along every step of the way.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:39 PM
Mar 2019

Evidence has to be laid out, etc. We’re lucky things have moved along this quickly.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
21. This only serves them. We don't know anything yet.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:21 PM
Mar 2019

And if you have to have the sun and only get the moon you’ll never be anything but hopeless.

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
27. But, but, but, Jerome Corsi said Mueller told him he was going to be indicted
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:32 PM
Mar 2019

What is happening right now.....

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
29. Sounds like a lot of whistling past the graveyard here to me...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:33 PM
Mar 2019

All these “it’s not over yet” fly in the face of reality. It’s over.

What I’m seeing here is the “bargaining” stage of the five stages of death. We may as well move on to acceptance. Not saying Trump isn’t guilty as sin, but he’s managed to skate on this one.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. I hate to admit it, but I am kind of agreeing with you here.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

I never did have a lot of faith that Mueller was going to turn up anything on Trump and his family, and I still feel like the bastard and his accomplices are going to get away with everything. I hope we are wrong.

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
31. Yes. Let down. I don't know if that smug POS will be "vindicated" entirely...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019

But that will be the practical effect.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
33. No
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:42 PM
Mar 2019

but I my expectations were less than zero. I understand that others may have had higher hopes, but that generally isn't the way it all works out.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
36. Not yet. Not close to yet.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:36 PM
Mar 2019

The report will say a lot that we don't know even now, whether it is good or bad.

Wait for the report.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. Not a bit.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:40 PM
Mar 2019

All this talk about Don Jr in cuffs and mountains of sealed indictments and the endless proclamations of “HE’S GOING DOWN!” were always delusional fantasy, fed by fantastists on Twitter creating “facts” from whole cloth.

The fault doesn’t lie with the Special Counsel, or with his report. The fault lies with people confusing speculation with news, and happy talk with fact.

Trump will be with us until we beat him in 2020 or until he serves out his second term (barring a coronary, naturally.) No criminal indictments, impeachment, or 25th Amendment procedure will save us from not doing our job.

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