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Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:02 PM

Adam Schiff and Senator Blumenthal on the possibility of more indictments.







Tweeted by Kyle Griffin:

Schiff to @MSNBC on 'no further indictments': "It doesn't mean, of course, that Main Justice, or the Southern District of New York U.S. Attorney's office or the Eastern District or others may not bring indictments ... It's entirely possible ... there will be other indictments."


Richard Blumenthal, referencing other investigations by SDNY, etc., tells @MSNBC that "there's a high likelihood that there are indictments in this president's future."

"I think there's a strong possibility of additional indictments, including the president's family."

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 01:47 AM

1. and those indictments may not wait until he's out of office

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:01 AM

2. It's also possible that Barron is Putin's love child

But unless Blumenthal has an inside track with SDNY, this is just hopeful speculation.

Mueller didn't hit a single big fish. Not a single administration official. And the fish he did get we already knew about before the election (with the exception of Cohen, whose crimes were unrelated to Russia).

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:28 AM

3. Blumenthal has the inside track on a mountain of classified information

heard by the Senate in closed hearings.

But the public Mueller filings also links multiple members of Team Trump to the Russians. You either haven't been paying attention -- for example, to Mueller's determination that Manafort gave proprietary polling data to the Russians -- or you are deliberately spreading negativity for some reason.

Manafort is a big fish and we did not know about him sharing the polling data before the election.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:51 AM

4. Yeah, I know. He's got all that insider knowledge

Here's Blumenthal using his mountain of classified information to predict that Mueller might indict administration officials for obstruction:

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-could-be-indited-and-faces-credible-case-obstruction-justice-leading-773853

Blumenthal has been talking up possible indictments of officials for two years. He has no special line into the DOJ or the FBI. It's just speculation on his part to give hope to the faithful.

Mueller spent two years and didn't hit a single administration fish. I'm sorry if you find that "negative", but it's reality. We know he's farmed some stuff out, but whether SDNY et. al. eventually bring more charges is anyone's (including Blumenthal's) guess. The criminal side of the core Russia/obstruction investigation, however, is over.

I am holding out hope for some kind of bombshell in his report, but I will freely admit I anticipated something more from this investigation. With the exception of a few Russian troll farms, Mueller caught no one that Rachel Maddow hadn't already caught on primetime TV.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:54 AM

5. Trump has been obstructing justice in plain view since he was inaugurated. That doesn't mean

it's not obstruction.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:02 AM

6. Of course he has

But Congress ain't gonna sanction or impeach. So unless prosecutors somewhere decide to indict, there's not going to be any serious punishment for this administration and this is all just grist for the 2020 election mill.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:05 AM

7. Then what was the basis for Mike Flynn's and Rick Gate's plea deals?

They were both on the hook for crimes that would have otherwise led to long prison terms and both have been "cooperating extensively" and have had recommendations to have their sentences reduced. Same with Michael Cohen. We haven't yet publicly seen a fraction of what they would have given up.

It's just not going to be prosecuted through the Special Counsel's Office because there's too much risk of Barr interfering or Trump just pardoning everyone.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:16 AM

8. Your guess is as good as mine

But I'm beginning to suspect that Flynn and Gates' testimony may have more to do with counterintelligence cases and less to do with anything implicating Trump and his family in domestic crimes.

Cohen's cooperation doesn't seem to have done much for Mueller other than tell him stuff he already knew. I haven't seen anything to indicate that Mueller needs his testimony for anything Russia/obstruction-related. SDNY clearly want his testimony, but so far as we know that's not Russia-related either.

I'm not saying that there won't be other indictments eventually coming down for things like tax evasion, campaign finance, etc. But it's really looking like the Russia/obstruction thing is over.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:28 AM

9. And until we actually see the report, there's no way to know if he "hit any big fish" or not.

I actually can't conceive of a version of the Mueller report that doesn't at least conclude that he is guilty of obstruction of justice. It's been in plain sight in what's been publicly reported for years now. Trump obstructs justice with every other tweet.

So if he isn't indicting that means he's referring the matter to congress which means next step is hearings, not "everybody walks, nothing to see here".

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 07:12 AM

10. Russia maybe but obstruction? No ...

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