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If fertilized eggs are "people" and refugees aren't, we have a problem. . . (Original Post) CousinIT Mar 2019 OP
Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #1
Nowhere is the bible does it substantiate life before birth and it's first breath. TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #26
There you have it. 3catwoman3 Mar 2019 #2
'Whiteness' and Patriarchy requires a hierarchy to function JCMach1 Mar 2019 #3
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Mar 2019 #4
Trump calls the illegals/refugees 'animals' anyway. keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #5
And to the GOP women are just slaves. CousinIT Mar 2019 #6
Worse than that...slaves are people. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #9
So you're saying "The Handmaid's Tale" is a documentary tclambert Mar 2019 #11
To a certain extent, it is. volstork Mar 2019 #14
What "workers" and "jobs"? White male Patriarchy wants to keep women out of work entirely. Texin Apr 2019 #18
Nice warm Petrie dish to deposit sperm. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #15
Selective Hypocrisy and Lack of the Embarrassment Gene Have Always Been Repuke's Staples DoctorJoJo Mar 2019 #7
In todays world, you have to look to see if the person is on the Forbes list to determine LiberalArkie Mar 2019 #8
Ding, Ding, Ding! smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #10
Perfect. Make them own it, because that is the truth. "Christian nation"? Ya right. Evolve Dammit Mar 2019 #12
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2019 #13
thanks for this great post. k&r Kurt V. Mar 2019 #16
Also, corporations are people cuz $$$$$ LakeArenal Mar 2019 #17
That's the trouble. WE have a problem DFW Apr 2019 #19
Very true. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #20
Indeed ck4829 Apr 2019 #25
Yes we do Glaisne Apr 2019 #21
Trumpists hypocrisy is based on skin color. roamer65 Apr 2019 #22
This is consistent with Republican policy patphil Apr 2019 #23
K&R ck4829 Apr 2019 #24
They don't have to look fertilized eggs in the face, democratisphere Apr 2019 #27
Good point! Corporations too. We have a problem when corporations are considered "people". somaticexperiencing Apr 2019 #28
Indeed ck4829 Apr 2019 #29

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
26. Nowhere is the bible does it substantiate life before birth and it's first breath.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:53 PM
Apr 2019

.

Sure, when the sand goes up and forms the fetus, God knows its name.

But, the death of a fetus is no different than when God kills innocent pregnant women, causes miscarriages, etc.


Perhaps the purpose of that fetus was to die in the first place, and never be born into a life.

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3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
2. There you have it.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 04:36 PM
Mar 2019

Succint explanation in a mere 12 words.

This needs to be on T-shirts, and bumper stickers, and giant billboards.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
5. Trump calls the illegals/refugees 'animals' anyway.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:05 PM
Mar 2019

Trump calls the illegals/refugees 'animals' anyway.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
11. So you're saying "The Handmaid's Tale" is a documentary
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:57 PM
Mar 2019

and not just imaginative fiction. Okay, now I feel like when I realized all the zombie movies and "The Walking Dead" TV show are really about our current world, not fictional apocalyptic worlds. If you don't blend in with the zombies around you, they try to eat you.

So the women in our world must dress and act according to their assigned roles--wife and mothers one way, single women seeking husbands another, office workers a third way, and women who work menial jobs a fourth way. That kind of tracks, at least for Republican women.

(The whole time I watched "The Handmaid's Tale," I worried that Donald Trump might see it on TV (no way he's reading the book), and decide we need to rewrite the Constitution using that sick civilization as a guide. I had the same worry watching "The Purge.&quot

volstork

(5,400 posts)
14. To a certain extent, it is.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:25 PM
Mar 2019

Margaret Atwood has said that there is nothing in the novel that has not been true somewhere on earth at some time in history:

"I made a rule for myself: I would not include anything that human beings had not already done in some other place or time, or for which the technology did not already exist. I did not wish to be accused of dark, twisted inventions, or of misrepresenting the human potential for deplorable behavior. The group-activated hangings, the tearing apart of human beings, the clothing specific to castes and classes, the forced childbearing and the appropriation of the results, the children stolen by regimes and placed for upbringing with high-ranking officials, the forbidding of literacy, the denial of property rights—all had precedents, and many of these were to be found, not in other cultures and religions, but within Western society, and within the “Christian” tradition itself. (I enclose “Christian” in quotation marks, since I believe that much of the Church’s behavior and doctrine during its two-millennia-long existence as a social and political organization would have been abhorrent to the person after whom it is named.)"

https://lithub.com/margaret-atwood-on-how-she-came-to-write-the-handmaids-tale/

Texin

(2,596 posts)
18. What "workers" and "jobs"? White male Patriarchy wants to keep women out of work entirely.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:27 AM
Apr 2019

They want women serving as wives, mothers and dependent in their entirety on the beneficence of a male. We're to push out one (preferably) male kid after another, all the while tending to the home fires and sweeping those porches, until we dry up and die sooner than later so the 45 year old widower can go pluck a fifteen year old virgin and start the process all over again.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
8. In todays world, you have to look to see if the person is on the Forbes list to determine
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 06:11 PM
Mar 2019

if a being is a person or not.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
19. That's the trouble. WE have a problem
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:32 AM
Apr 2019

And OUR problem is that Republicans DON'T have a problem with that.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
20. Very true.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

They believe that the unborn are better than the already born because the unborn are 'innocent.' I'm unsure if original sin covers the unborn. I don't think St. Augustine ever imagined a day in which people fetishized fetuses to the degree that some are doing now. He probably didn't think the unborn had souls. It's interesting to look at the twists and turns that Christianity has taken over the centuries.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
22. Trumpists hypocrisy is based on skin color.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:44 PM
Apr 2019

If they truly had their way, they would ban abortion of only white fetuses.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
23. This is consistent with Republican policy
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:50 PM
Apr 2019

of being concerned more with the unborn child than with the children once they have been born.
Their policy on the unborn is strictly to control and dominate women.
Their policy once the child is born is consistent with their philosophy of not really giving a shit about those kids.
Just look what they did to immigrant children.
Ah! Such good Christians!
To paraphrase Jesus, "What so ever you do to the least of my children, that you do also unto me".

Patrick Phillips

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