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A mentally ill man made noise in his cell.
Four police officers then stormed his cell, bashed him into a wall, punched him multiple times *in the face*, and pummeled him into the ground.
This. Is. Why. People. Kneel.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)Also, I'm sorry to say - but when they started to do the take down, the women weren't able to help. They were trying to get him on the floor, but the women could not do it. They didn't have the strength.
That was horrible. (Speaking as someone who has done a lot of take-downs)
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)They just didn't use proper technique or anything even closely resembling it. I've done plenty of takedowns over the years-once upon a time they were three man until many mental institutions got rid of the three man with the third on legs. (As a 5'2, 112lb woman in my early 20's I was usually on the legs because I regularly worked my lower body and could squat longer than the other staff. Those were the days.) Most now do a two man hold with pivots. Learn the technique and it's not that hard. More than anything the male jailer was in the way.
With that many people already in the cell there was no way they could ever properly implement a hold or a takedown. They didn't have the room for it. I'm not really sure why they were doing it in the first place. He seemed secure in his holding cell.
janterry
(4,429 posts)Prison take downs are different than psych. hospitals. The shield is how you do a take down in prison when someone is combative (the guy balled up his fists and took a combative stance). He was not following a direct command (which is what you need to do, and he knew it).
In psych. hospitals, we used to do 2 person take downs all the time (I did them there as well). Hundreds. But in prison, you don't do the same thing. Force is okay in prison. But not what that guard did. That was terrible.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)They didn't have the proper technique. It had nothing to do with strength. I know someone who used to work SWAT and they said the same-it's more technique than strength and that's a group of people who did nothing right.
malaise
(268,968 posts)This is torture - cruel and unusual punishment.
It has been a slippery road since George Bush and Dick Cheney decided that torture was legal. When you hire the soldiers you made torture foreigners as local law enforcement, the chickens come home to roost.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)I guess the cops feared for their lives.
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)I am speechless as to how insane this is! They just wanted to beat him up until he got on the ground since he was already in a CELL??? There is no rhyme or reason to anything here other than them just wanting to be violent toward him.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)this fucking BS. He is in a cell already. What was the purpose of this other than to come in and torture him?
marble falls
(57,080 posts)everybody else ran in and piled on.
I sure do not want to live in that county.
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)n/t
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)Sickening.
janterry
(4,429 posts)The man who was punched received a settlement and the officers involved were charged and fired.
This came out because staff were upset at what happened and reported it. So, part of this system worked (some institutions would never report a thing.......)
Here's the article: https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/police-brutality/watch-video-shows-california-jailers-beating-tasering-mentally-ill-inmate--LeqSFoA2EGc7S1sjzsJaA/
Demovictory9
(32,453 posts)Demovictory9
(32,453 posts)"One was holding me and then one tased me, and they put me in their sleeper stronghold, whatever it's called," Bangert said in May.
Bangert is eventually wheeled back into the cell in a "safety chair" with a spit mask over his head.
As jailers remove the mask, Bangert appears limp staring face up from the chair with his face covered in his own blood.
Two deputies and one jail official were fired and also faced charged for falsifying police reports, according to The Sacramento Bee.
Sacramento civil rights attorney Mark Merin said the video shows an "obviously mentally ill man acting out in an irrational way" who deputies victimized and "decided to end it in a very forceful, over-the-top-way, inflicting serious injuries to Mr. Bangert."
"They demonstrated total insensitivity and it was clearly an abusive gang attack on a defenseless individual," Merin said.
bluestarone
(16,926 posts)Officers only charged for making false statements? Hell he will use that money up on future treatment i bet! WOW!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,337 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)They didn't seem to give him any medicine to calm him. They simply beat him thinking that would have an effect on a mentally ill man.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)they had no aim for his care.
scrutineer
(1,156 posts)for years, and then the Kremlin installed him to the presidency.
Geechie
(865 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)He was in jail. The guards took him to solitary confinement without treatment. He stayed there for three weeks.
This is how the mentally ill are treated by our society. A large percentage of jail inmates should be in treatment...even if they do not have the capacity to make that choice on their own. County jails are an inhumane alternative.
My son recovered, but the trauma is still with him.
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)He spent 2 nights in a facility and now the threat alone of calling the cops calms him down immediately. I am going to show him this video. He had a meltdown at his day program recently and trashed a bunch of stuff. We had to reimburse them $1200 for the property damage. This incident looks mild and Im glad the man was awarded damages and the police officers fired. The times I had to call the cops they use it as a training situation for rookie cops how to deal with autistic people. The sight of police officers immediately calms my son down and I so respect the restraint of those officers who has dealt with my son.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)They are not trained.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)probably 99% of such incidents are never even heard about and certainly not reported. And in most cases, the damage done to the mentally ill makes their illness worse.
Once any inmate is behind the wall, most Americans simply do not care.....
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)decades ago.
Very few people seem to give a shit.
Caring people need to take this back and turn it around.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)spike jones
(1,678 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As in one woman instructing the patient to fall to the floor while he was yet simultaneously being held up in an arm hold preventing him from complying with her instructions?
That kind of intervention?
(I dig how consistently you're attempting to define a narrative here. It's not working. At all. But hat's-off for the old college try...)
Akacia
(583 posts)which is impossible for the guy to do since the male officer has him in an upright choke hold! And what in the name of hell were they going into his cell for anyway? Its not like he was going anywhere or could do anything! So glad he got some money out of the deal but the whole thing was reprehensible.
Raine
(30,540 posts)he should be where he gets mental help.