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sarabelle

(453 posts)
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:04 AM Apr 2019

Why are Rachels colleagues seemingly ignoring that expose she did on Barr last night?

Barr's history that Rachel exposed last night seems mighty important to me. Congress should pay attention and the media should be reporting on his past more than they are.

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Why are Rachels colleagues seemingly ignoring that expose she did on Barr last night? (Original Post) sarabelle Apr 2019 OP
Excellent question - his past deeds should be the lead everywhere malaise Apr 2019 #1
I don't get it either. Everyone is busy hiding Easter eggs is my guess... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #2
It seems like the media is intent on ignoring this. UCmeNdc Apr 2019 #3
it's a complex issue NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #6
Actually, they've been reporting on it extensively. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #29
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2019 #33
Daytime MSNBC is horrible manor321 Apr 2019 #4
I brought this up recently too. For the No 1 Cable News Talk Show host, you'd think they would use OnDoutside Apr 2019 #5
CNN was hitting it pretty hard last night, and they had the story before she did. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #7
Thanks for post. riversedge Apr 2019 #26
Maybe they are jealous of her. GreatCaesarsGhost Apr 2019 #8
CNN's John Avlon basically stole her act and presented it this morning bullwinkle428 Apr 2019 #9
This happened years ago SHRED Apr 2019 #10
It wasn't reported on very much at the time. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #14
Just as his memo was an audition for this AG job, that sold him to Poppy bigbrother05 Apr 2019 #16
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Apr 2019 #34
Didn't Ari get into it a bit at 6pm? Shanti Mama Apr 2019 #11
There seems to be one hell of a lot of professional jealousy from her colleagues... hlthe2b Apr 2019 #12
WaPo covered it 2 days ago. I don't know who did first, Hortensis Apr 2019 #13
Good Lord, what a thread. Thank you for this, Hortensis. SMH Hekate Apr 2019 #23
I disagree, compared to how the M$M as a whole covered Barr's summary this story is being backpaged uponit7771 Apr 2019 #36
:) Ok. Disagree all you want. Hortensis Apr 2019 #41
Barr being a bold faced liar about his summaries is news, it's being backpaged relative to ... uponit7771 Apr 2019 #43
Maybe because there are SO MANY OUTRAGEOUS STORIES to pursue at once ?? eppur_se_muova Apr 2019 #15
+1 Hekate Apr 2019 #24
What's wrong with ths picture? Totally Tunsie Apr 2019 #17
Well,.. Dishonorable Fascist Full of Bullshit - william P. barr... magicarpet Apr 2019 #21
I've seen stories about it on both CNN and MSNBC renate Apr 2019 #18
Other than that... czarjak Apr 2019 #19
What I want to know is why this wasn't brought up and hammered hard The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #20
The confirmation process is through the U S Senate... magicarpet Apr 2019 #32
But the Democrats at least had a chance to question him. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #37
Sorry,.. I was busy during his confirmation,.. I did not see the minute by minute... magicarpet Apr 2019 #42
Because she scooped them and they have to catch up? Because there's other stuff too? Hekate Apr 2019 #22
She didn't scoop them. CNN did a story on it before TRMS came on, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #25
Right. And whatever it was (I was out last night) I don't think there's a plot against Rachel... Hekate Apr 2019 #31
Probably the same reason the Senate chose to ignore it.... N/T jimmil Apr 2019 #27
Most of them would rather print stories about Hillary's goddamned e-mails. . . BigDemVoter Apr 2019 #28
And don't forget about Bill's blow job,... magicarpet Apr 2019 #40
Another "Too Big" of a lie to even consider LiberalLovinLug Apr 2019 #30
My question isn't why the M$M isn't covering something anti-Barr, watoos Apr 2019 #35
Barr's history marieo1 Apr 2019 #38
The Old Boy Network Sticks Together, No Matter What dlk Apr 2019 #39
took your question to twitter lillypaddle Apr 2019 #44
 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
2. I don't get it either. Everyone is busy hiding Easter eggs is my guess...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:09 AM
Apr 2019

to know that Barr misrepresented a "summary" before and may be doing it again baffles me. I read this opinion on CNN.com this morning that hits his wordsmanship pretty well in his first summary and what to watch for in the redacted release this week. Barr was pretty sneaky with that footnote in his letter about "collusion".
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/opinions/mueller-report-legal-definition-coordination-noble/index.html


NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. it's a complex issue
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:14 AM
Apr 2019

so, they're doing their best to bury their hands in the sand until they get their sound bites from Billy Barr

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
4. Daytime MSNBC is horrible
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:12 AM
Apr 2019

I only watch the shows at 4PM, 8PM, 9PM and 10PM (and sometimes not those depending on topic). All the others are bad.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
5. I brought this up recently too. For the No 1 Cable News Talk Show host, you'd think they would use
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:13 AM
Apr 2019

more of what she does on her show, but they don't. Even the middle of the night repeats, features Brian Williams TWICE, sandwiching Chris Hayes's show. It just doesn't make sense.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
7. CNN was hitting it pretty hard last night, and they had the story before she did.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:17 AM
Apr 2019

I'd already heard CNN talk about it so when TRMS came on I knew where she was going. So it's getting some coverage. But MSNBC tends to be kind of lame in the morning, so let's see what happens with Nicole Wallace this afternoon.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
9. CNN's John Avlon basically stole her act and presented it this morning
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:23 AM
Apr 2019

like he came up with this research.

I guess I'm okay with it if it reaches more people...

Okay - editing it now, as Velveteen Ocelot mentioned that CNN was reporting on this before Rachel actually did.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
10. This happened years ago
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:26 AM
Apr 2019

Why are these stories only surfacing now?
Why did we sit through days of the legal experts all telling us of Barr's so-called "integrity" when we first heard about him as a nominee?

Why did we not get the full picture back then?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
14. It wasn't reported on very much at the time.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:48 AM
Apr 2019

I remember the controversy over Noriega but I have absolutely no recollection of any reports relating to Barr's memo about the FBI having authority to capture people in other countries or his testimony about it. In those days there was no C-SPAN or 24-hour cable news, so unless you were a total wonk who read the Federal Register every day you probably wouldn't have heard about it. Also, this all came down at the same time as the big stock market crash, so any news about it would have been overshadowed by that event - which I also remember.

I do agree that this matter should have come up during Barr's confirmation hearing but I don't blame the media for that; it would have been the job of the Senate's staff to have done their research.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
16. Just as his memo was an audition for this AG job, that sold him to Poppy
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:21 PM
Apr 2019

It didn't get that much play then because the evidence came out after Clinton came into office.

Barr was OLC and his summary cover up sold well enough for Poppy to make him the AG. He then did his best to make Iran-Contra disappear.

Wash - Rinse - Repeat

It was no fluke that he was nominated.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
12. There seems to be one hell of a lot of professional jealousy from her colleagues...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:36 AM
Apr 2019

I guess they think if they never credit her reporting, she won't continue to get high ratings and accolades...

Joy and Lawrence are clearly exceptions... (and Chris Hayes)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. WaPo covered it 2 days ago. I don't know who did first,
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:43 AM
Apr 2019

but it's all over the media. Heck, Yahoo News had it 2 days ago. Interestingly, I don't see that NYT has reported it, may be investigating something for their story further.

You know, Rachel has a good research staff, but she reports information; she doesn't make it and she doesn't own it. I saw her last night and appreciated her coverage, but coming on this whiff-of-conspiracism thread is like stumbling onto the dark side compared to her show.

Just saying. Googling first, reading second, then posting works well.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
36. I disagree, compared to how the M$M as a whole covered Barr's summary this story is being backpaged
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

... and it's notable that there's few mentioning it on day time shows.

Disagree

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. :) Ok. Disagree all you want.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:13 PM
Apr 2019

They all hold many stories until they decide it's time to pull them out. SOP. This is hardly new news, you know. It was a big scandal in 1989, and Rachel will have been holding it since about two hours after Barr's name was first floated in a rumor. Or maybe not that long.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
43. Barr being a bold faced liar about his summaries is news, it's being backpaged relative to ...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:17 PM
Apr 2019

... how they reported his "summary".

There are people who weren't aware in 89 of anything ... relatively speaking there's not as much attention given to Barr's previous lies

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
15. Maybe because there are SO MANY OUTRAGEOUS STORIES to pursue at once ??
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:58 AM
Apr 2019

If everybody focuses on one or two, a couple dozen slip by without comment.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
17. What's wrong with ths picture?
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:25 PM
Apr 2019
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Answer: Barr's nameplate identifies him as being "Honorable".

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
21. Well,.. Dishonorable Fascist Full of Bullshit - william P. barr...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:36 PM
Apr 2019

....Was way too accurate and simply would not fit on the name card.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
20. What I want to know is why this wasn't brought up and hammered hard
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:35 PM
Apr 2019

at Barr's confirmation hearing. It wasn't up to the media to hand the story to the Senate; they have staff and researchers. Did anyone talk about this at all?

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
32. The confirmation process is through the U S Senate...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 01:48 PM
Apr 2019

The Rethugs remain in control of the senate, they hold more vote in the committees, they retain more control over the final votes for any confirmation.

After Beauregard Sessions, then the nightmare of temp. AG Matthew Whitaker I am guessing Demos were happy to see bill barr come along and become AG.

Besides the sitting president does not deserve each/every/all nominees shot down by the other parties when he tries to fill an opening. If Dems do that to trDump they give the Rethugs a green light once they return to power down the road.

All the Rethugs Fascists need is an excuse handed to them on a silver platter so as not to confirm any demo president's nominee to fill a federal job post. Like the bullshit McConnell pulled against the Obama nominee to the Supreme Court - Merrick Garland.

These Rethugs are venomous vipers just looking/waiting to gum up the works to surprise a Demo administration and intentionally make that demo admin. a dysfunctional failure. Obstruction on top of blatantly intentional obscene obstruction like they did to Obama.

They hate Dems, they hate Democracy, and they hate America and they willfully and wantonly commit treason and shit on the US Constitution so as to advance their warped and selfish and greedy political agendas.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
37. But the Democrats at least had a chance to question him.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:01 PM
Apr 2019

I didn't watch the hearing. Did any of the Democrats ask him about this matter? I realize that the GOP controls the Senate and he almost certainly would have been confirmed anyhow, but I'm wondering whether this information came out at all.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
42. Sorry,.. I was busy during his confirmation,.. I did not see the minute by minute...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:16 PM
Apr 2019

... second by second confirmation hearing of billy p. barr. He is a pompous Fascist worm,.. he makes me vomit.

Sorry I cant be more helpful with the details.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
22. Because she scooped them and they have to catch up? Because there's other stuff too?
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 12:38 PM
Apr 2019

I think she's the only one whose format allows her type of oh-so-lengthy intro and deep digging. They put her on at 9 pm Eastern.

Rachel is unique. She has a platform. I don't think her work is ignored.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
25. She didn't scoop them. CNN did a story on it before TRMS came on,
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 01:07 PM
Apr 2019

and it was already in the WaPo and elsewhere on Monday, but it probably wasn't really noticed until yesterday because of the Notre Dame fire. Maddow might have done the best job of explaining it, though.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
31. Right. And whatever it was (I was out last night) I don't think there's a plot against Rachel...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 01:16 PM
Apr 2019

...by MSNBC or anyone else.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
40. And don't forget about Bill's blow job,...
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:08 PM
Apr 2019

... then he lied about it,... and shame shame on him - that was down right treasonous.

Oh,.. wait,.. maybe it wasn't treasonous,..
but the Rethugs yap and yap about it constantly and incessantly.

And what about White Water,.. those dirty dirty dogs... yet ken starr found zip,... zero,... zilch, but cost $60 million American tax payer dollars - but no pay dirt was uncovered.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
35. My question isn't why the M$M isn't covering something anti-Barr,
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 01:57 PM
Apr 2019

I know the answer, the M$M is not our friend.

My question is why didn't Democrats bring this up at Barr's confirmation hearing? Is the Senate just for cordial conversation?

Freshmen Democrats in the House would have dug out this dirt.

Anyone see Steny Hoyer?

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
38. Barr's history
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:03 PM
Apr 2019

I watch Rachel every single night she is on. She is excellent and I appreciate the history she tells us about people like this. She is not only interesting she is very informative - Thank You, Rachel. You are the best!! I remember all of this once she has researched and told us again but I would not remember it without Rachel.

dlk

(11,561 posts)
39. The Old Boy Network Sticks Together, No Matter What
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 02:06 PM
Apr 2019

They fully intend to keep their iron grip on power, consequences be damned.

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