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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy are Rachels colleagues seemingly ignoring that expose she did on Barr last night?
Barr's history that Rachel exposed last night seems mighty important to me. Congress should pay attention and the media should be reporting on his past more than they are.
malaise
(268,968 posts)Rec
PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)to know that Barr misrepresented a "summary" before and may be doing it again baffles me. I read this opinion on CNN.com this morning that hits his wordsmanship pretty well in his first summary and what to watch for in the redacted release this week. Barr was pretty sneaky with that footnote in his letter about "collusion".
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/opinions/mueller-report-legal-definition-coordination-noble/index.html
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)so, they're doing their best to bury their hands in the sand until they get their sound bites from Billy Barr
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)WaPo and other media outlets have had stories since Monday. I think it was overshadowed by coverage of the Notre Dame fire, but the media haven't been ignoring it.
Just a few:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/william-barr-mueller-report-summary
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/barrs-credibility-faces-new-questions-ahead-mueller-reports-release
https://www.justsecurity.org/63635/barrs-playbook-he-misled-congress-when-omitting-parts-of-justice-dept-memo-in-1989/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/15/precedent-that-raises-questions-about-how-barr-will-redact-mueller-report/?utm_term=.0b885555b2de
manor321
(3,344 posts)I only watch the shows at 4PM, 8PM, 9PM and 10PM (and sometimes not those depending on topic). All the others are bad.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)more of what she does on her show, but they don't. Even the middle of the night repeats, features Brian Williams TWICE, sandwiching Chris Hayes's show. It just doesn't make sense.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)I'd already heard CNN talk about it so when TRMS came on I knew where she was going. So it's getting some coverage. But MSNBC tends to be kind of lame in the morning, so let's see what happens with Nicole Wallace this afternoon.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)The others are just talking heads, Rachel is an investigator.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)like he came up with this research.
I guess I'm okay with it if it reaches more people...
Okay - editing it now, as Velveteen Ocelot mentioned that CNN was reporting on this before Rachel actually did.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Why are these stories only surfacing now?
Why did we sit through days of the legal experts all telling us of Barr's so-called "integrity" when we first heard about him as a nominee?
Why did we not get the full picture back then?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)I remember the controversy over Noriega but I have absolutely no recollection of any reports relating to Barr's memo about the FBI having authority to capture people in other countries or his testimony about it. In those days there was no C-SPAN or 24-hour cable news, so unless you were a total wonk who read the Federal Register every day you probably wouldn't have heard about it. Also, this all came down at the same time as the big stock market crash, so any news about it would have been overshadowed by that event - which I also remember.
I do agree that this matter should have come up during Barr's confirmation hearing but I don't blame the media for that; it would have been the job of the Senate's staff to have done their research.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)It didn't get that much play then because the evidence came out after Clinton came into office.
Barr was OLC and his summary cover up sold well enough for Poppy to make him the AG. He then did his best to make Iran-Contra disappear.
Wash - Rinse - Repeat
It was no fluke that he was nominated.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)I can't remember now.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)I guess they think if they never credit her reporting, she won't continue to get high ratings and accolades...
Joy and Lawrence are clearly exceptions... (and Chris Hayes)
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but it's all over the media. Heck, Yahoo News had it 2 days ago. Interestingly, I don't see that NYT has reported it, may be investigating something for their story further.
You know, Rachel has a good research staff, but she reports information; she doesn't make it and she doesn't own it. I saw her last night and appreciated her coverage, but coming on this whiff-of-conspiracism thread is like stumbling onto the dark side compared to her show.
Just saying. Googling first, reading second, then posting works well.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... and it's notable that there's few mentioning it on day time shows.
Disagree
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They all hold many stories until they decide it's time to pull them out. SOP. This is hardly new news, you know. It was a big scandal in 1989, and Rachel will have been holding it since about two hours after Barr's name was first floated in a rumor. Or maybe not that long.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... how they reported his "summary".
There are people who weren't aware in 89 of anything ... relatively speaking there's not as much attention given to Barr's previous lies
eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)If everybody focuses on one or two, a couple dozen slip by without comment.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Answer: Barr's nameplate identifies him as being "Honorable".
magicarpet
(14,145 posts)....Was way too accurate and simply would not fit on the name card.
renate
(13,776 posts)And theres an article in the Washington Post.
czarjak
(11,269 posts)Ill bet hes a really nice guy. Its written all over his face.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)at Barr's confirmation hearing. It wasn't up to the media to hand the story to the Senate; they have staff and researchers. Did anyone talk about this at all?
magicarpet
(14,145 posts)The Rethugs remain in control of the senate, they hold more vote in the committees, they retain more control over the final votes for any confirmation.
After Beauregard Sessions, then the nightmare of temp. AG Matthew Whitaker I am guessing Demos were happy to see bill barr come along and become AG.
Besides the sitting president does not deserve each/every/all nominees shot down by the other parties when he tries to fill an opening. If Dems do that to trDump they give the Rethugs a green light once they return to power down the road.
All the Rethugs Fascists need is an excuse handed to them on a silver platter so as not to confirm any demo president's nominee to fill a federal job post. Like the bullshit McConnell pulled against the Obama nominee to the Supreme Court - Merrick Garland.
These Rethugs are venomous vipers just looking/waiting to gum up the works to surprise a Demo administration and intentionally make that demo admin. a dysfunctional failure. Obstruction on top of blatantly intentional obscene obstruction like they did to Obama.
They hate Dems, they hate Democracy, and they hate America and they willfully and wantonly commit treason and shit on the US Constitution so as to advance their warped and selfish and greedy political agendas.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)I didn't watch the hearing. Did any of the Democrats ask him about this matter? I realize that the GOP controls the Senate and he almost certainly would have been confirmed anyhow, but I'm wondering whether this information came out at all.
magicarpet
(14,145 posts)... second by second confirmation hearing of billy p. barr. He is a pompous Fascist worm,.. he makes me vomit.
Sorry I cant be more helpful with the details.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)I think she's the only one whose format allows her type of oh-so-lengthy intro and deep digging. They put her on at 9 pm Eastern.
Rachel is unique. She has a platform. I don't think her work is ignored.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)and it was already in the WaPo and elsewhere on Monday, but it probably wasn't really noticed until yesterday because of the Notre Dame fire. Maddow might have done the best job of explaining it, though.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)...by MSNBC or anyone else.
jimmil
(629 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)magicarpet
(14,145 posts)... then he lied about it,... and shame shame on him - that was down right treasonous.
Oh,.. wait,.. maybe it wasn't treasonous,..
but the Rethugs yap and yap about it constantly and incessantly.
And what about White Water,.. those dirty dirty dogs... yet ken starr found zip,... zero,... zilch, but cost $60 million American tax payer dollars - but no pay dirt was uncovered.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)I know the answer, the M$M is not our friend.
My question is why didn't Democrats bring this up at Barr's confirmation hearing? Is the Senate just for cordial conversation?
Freshmen Democrats in the House would have dug out this dirt.
Anyone see Steny Hoyer?
marieo1
(1,402 posts)I watch Rachel every single night she is on. She is excellent and I appreciate the history she tells us about people like this. She is not only interesting she is very informative - Thank You, Rachel. You are the best!! I remember all of this once she has researched and told us again but I would not remember it without Rachel.
dlk
(11,561 posts)They fully intend to keep their iron grip on power, consequences be damned.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)msnbc, et al and CNN. I want to know, too.