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MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:21 PM May 2019

Republican State Legislators in Minnesota object to the use

of Native American names on landmarks in the state. In a couple of recent situations, such landmarks were renamed with their original Native American names to reflect that heritage and to replace the names of people who had oppressed them in the historical past. Republicans, for some reason, do not wish that to take place. I guess they think the Native Americans should "go back to where they came from" or something.

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Republican State Legislators in Minnesota object to the use (Original Post) MineralMan May 2019 OP
Where did the name "Minnesota" come from, I wonder? dawg May 2019 #1
Indeed. The state is full of native american words used as MineralMan May 2019 #3
I always wondered about that, as it seemed like a chicken-egg mystery DFW May 2019 #15
"Isn't Minnesota named after a famous English aristocratic family?" struggle4progress May 2019 #16
It always throws me off when that kind of thing happens, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #2
No disputes. The local Native Americans have preserved their MineralMan May 2019 #4
Heard some discussion on that on KTNF yesterday afternoon rurallib May 2019 #5
Yes, that's one of them. The name had been changed, but there was a MineralMan May 2019 #6
Ft. Snelling is an actual army fort PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #7
And that's what they did. The signs now read: MineralMan May 2019 #8
Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #9
Yes, Ft. Snelling has a number of historical programs, MineralMan May 2019 #10
Oh, good. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #12
aw, c'mon... they don't mind "Indian sounding" names... TygrBright May 2019 #11
On this issue, my sentiments are with the guy on the right. DFW May 2019 #13
+100 MineralMan May 2019 #14

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
3. Indeed. The state is full of native american words used as
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:28 PM
May 2019

place names. Nobody has objected to those. It's only when the names get changed to a Native American word to replace the name of some white historical figure who treated the local indigenous people badly that the Republicans object. Odd, huh?

DFW

(54,447 posts)
15. I always wondered about that, as it seemed like a chicken-egg mystery
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:42 PM
May 2019

Minnesota is known for having attracted Scandinavian immigrants in the 19th century. The name is sort of a Scandinavian mishmosh of "Memory Sweet." So, I always wondered if it was the name that attracted the Scandinavians, or a result of their own language seeping into the accepted name of the place.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,906 posts)
2. It always throws me off when that kind of thing happens,
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:27 PM
May 2019

and I'll admit that I almost invariably don't like it at first. But I also invariably realize that it's the right thing to do.

I just wonder if there's ever much of a dispute over exactly what the original Native American name was.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
4. No disputes. The local Native Americans have preserved their
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:30 PM
May 2019

heritage and traditions. They were not exterminated like the Chumash peoples were in California.

rurallib

(62,460 posts)
5. Heard some discussion on that on KTNF yesterday afternoon
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:32 PM
May 2019

Had no idea that Lake Calhoun was named after John C. Calhoun. There is one name that deserves no honor.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
6. Yes, that's one of them. The name had been changed, but there was a
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:36 PM
May 2019

lawsuit.

The other is Fort Snelling. A sign went up, adding "at Bdote" the original Native American name for the place. Some folks got all incensed, despite there having been a massacre and mass execution of Native Americans at that very site by US Soldiers.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,906 posts)
7. Ft. Snelling is an actual army fort
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:39 PM
May 2019

named after some guy Snelling, right? Changing that name completely strikes me as silly. Although the surrounding area could all go back to the original name, with the fort on that land.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
8. And that's what they did. The signs now read:
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:41 PM
May 2019

Fort Snelling
at Bdote.

Bdote was the orginal name of the confluence of the Minnesota and Mississippi rivers, above which Ft. Snelling is located.

Snelling wasn't a very nice man, actually, if you were a Native American in those days.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,906 posts)
9. Thank you.
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:43 PM
May 2019

I did live briefly in Minneapolis and found the programs at Ft. Snelling to be wonderful. I hope they still have them.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
10. Yes, Ft. Snelling has a number of historical programs,
Wed May 1, 2019, 01:58 PM
May 2019

as well as the National Cemetery. My wife's father is buried there, so we go out to visit his grave from time to time.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,906 posts)
12. Oh, good.
Wed May 1, 2019, 05:53 PM
May 2019

The last time I was there was probably 15 or more years ago, and it's hard to say if I'll ever get back there again.

I did love living in Minneapolis.

TygrBright

(20,772 posts)
11. aw, c'mon... they don't mind "Indian sounding" names...
Wed May 1, 2019, 02:05 PM
May 2019

...as long as they come from Longfellow.

You know... Like "Hiawatha!" That's real Indian stuff there! And "Nokomis!"

You can't accuse them of being racist against Native Americans, when they just love the very sound of "Manito of Wealth and Wampum"!

tsk-tsk. Shame on you.

piously,
Bright

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