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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:01 AM May 2019

Geo Conway brings the receipts to show why @RudyGiuliani & Bill Barr are wrong about obstruction law



And @gtconway3d brings the receipts to show why @RudyGiuliani & Bill Barr are wrong about obstruction law & need to read the DOJ Manual which is the “bible” for federal prosecutors.











Rudy Giuliani
‏Verified account @RudyGiuliani
May 2

I consider Judge Napolitano to be a friend so I write this with regret. An obstruction case where there is no proof of an underlying crime is questionable. If you add to it nothing actually obstructed, there’s no case. Judge reconsider your position. This is a Weismann.
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Jennifer Taub
‏Verified account @jentaub
23h23 hours ago

Incorrect. Obstruction of justice even applies to efforts to interfere with civil litigation. See U.S. v. Lundwall. Also, corrupt attempts to obstruct a proceeding even when one isn’t the subject, is a crime. Mueller’s grand jury indicted many people.

https://cyber.harvard.edu/digitaldiscovery/library/spoliation/lundwall.html
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George Conway
‏ @gtconway3d
23h23 hours ago

There’s a section of the DOJ manual that nicely captures what obstruction of justice is about. It’s got nothing to do with whether there’s an underlying offense. It’s all about whether someone is trying to wrongly influence a participant in federal proceeding, ...
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George Conway
‏ @gtconway3d
Replying to @gtconway3d @jentaub @RudyGiuliani

... or to retaliate for someone’s past participation in a federal proceeding. Here’s a key passage, referring to Sections 1512 and 1513 of the criminal code:
https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1720-protection-government-processes-overview
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George Conway
‏ @gtconway3d
22h22 hours ago

Replying to @gtconway3d @jentaub @RudyGiuliani

There doesn’t have to be an underlying offense; the proceeding can be about trying to figure out whether there was an underlying offense. This isn’t hard.
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George Conway
‏ @gtconway3d
22h22 hours ago

And ... there’s also a whole section of the manual devoted to the basic proposition that obstruction doesn’t have to be successful to be obstruction.
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George Conway
‏ @gtconway3d
22h22 hours ago

So stop it with the garbage, Rudy.
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George Conway
‏ @gtconway3d
22h22 hours ago

But again, let’s remember: Whether the President of United States is provably a criminal (which, sadly, he is) is actually a red herring. Our standards should be—must be—higher than that. That’s why the Framers of our Constitution provided for impeachment.
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the adorable smudgie
‏ @adorablesmudgie
16h16 hours ago

George, you are not taking into account Rudy's knowledge of Matlock Seasons 1 - 57 and Perry Mason Seasons 1 - 98. In particular The Case of the Missing Heiress which proved a suspect is innocent if arrested on Groundhog Day and was wearing suspenders.
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Lewis Goldberg
‏ @Lewgo2
22h22 hours ago

Replying to @gtconway3d @jentaub @RudyGiuliani

Either way, it's the "ask" that's illegal.

If I tell you to take a hike and not testify against me, go out of town that week, and instead you tell the prosecutors, you'll guilty of obstruction even though my director was not acted upon.

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Replying to @gtconway3d @jentaub @RudyGiuliani

This too....









Of course @gtconway3d is right and @RudyGiuliani is 100% wrong.

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Geo Conway brings the receipts to show why @RudyGiuliani & Bill Barr are wrong about obstruction law (Original Post) riversedge May 2019 OP
Let me know if someone starts a Gofundme page for George's Happy Divorce Day. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #1
Right. Put your money where your mouth is, George. Time for a divorce. Mc Mike May 2019 #4
Been seeing some articles lately Iliyah May 2019 #2
I guess Barr and Giuliani are aiming their "legal" BS at the uninformed. TryLogic May 2019 #3

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Been seeing some articles lately
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:42 AM
May 2019

referring to some higher up Republicans starting to publicly come out concerning shithole's ousting. I think they are now seeing the writings on the hall for 2020.

Ya know that is all they care about and it is election time . . nothing else.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
3. I guess Barr and Giuliani are aiming their "legal" BS at the uninformed.
Sat May 4, 2019, 11:50 AM
May 2019

And at those who prefer to be misinformed.

Same audience targeted by FOX "News", Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.

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