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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe political science of why Game of Thrones' Daenerys may be a terrible queen
The problem, though, is that this kind of revolution can often replace old tyrannies with new ones. The classic examples here are 20th century communist revolutionaries like Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zedong, and Fidel Castro leaders who seized power in the name of the people, but ended up building structures that oppress them.
Research by scholars Jeff Colgan and Jessica Weeks suggests that these equally oppressive outcomes are not not accidents. Revolutionary leaders are often aggressive, and work to consolidate power in their own hands after the revolution. They tend to build what political scientists call personalist dictatorships political systems where ultimate power is concentrated in their hands and their hands alone and then use that power to repress political opponents and wage war abroad.
The same characteristics that allowed revolutionaries to succeed in their domestic struggle, Colgan and Weeks write, also make such leaders more likely to initiate international conflict once they have obtained office.
Daenerys fits this pattern to a tee. A woman whose iron will and ruthlessness allowed her to rise to power on Essos, and to eventually win most of Westeros to her cause, shes clearly an effective revolutionary. But that same will to power makes her unwilling to share it, and that same ruthlessness makes her willing to go to extreme lengths to punish her enemies. Any innocents who get hurt along the way are just collateral damage.
This is clearly the final major conflict the show is setting up. Once Cersei is dispatched with and, lets be real, she will be dispatched with the struggle for the shape of the post-war order will begin.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/5/6/18530772/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-4-dracarys-missandei-daenerys
Solly Mack
(90,766 posts)oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)because Sansa will end up on the throne! (no spoiler, just a guess)
Shell_Seas
(3,333 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Dany will lead her side to victory but is seriously injured in the process.
Jaime will be the one to finally root out and kill Cersei.
Dany dies in John's arms and John is proclaimed king.
Sansa will be appeased with John as king.
Jaime returns to the north to be with Brienne.
I expect Tyrion to remain alive and he'll have to deal with Bronn over Highgarden.
Perhaps Tyrion is given the position of lord of Highgarden himself.
Arya, I regret to say, will probably die in battle. Once the battles are over she
doesn't really have a place in society since she is a pure warrior.
I hate this but she has given clues by saying that she doesn't expect
to ever return to Winterfell.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Episode 10 will come true - the falling ash surrounding the Iron Throne is because they won't have enough people on their side to storm King's Landing by force, so Dany will take it upon herself to try to torch the Red Keep from above via fire.
Jon will sacrifice himself, but Dany will later reveal to Sansa that she carries their baby and the baby will be heir to the Iron Throne. To further appease her, Sansa will also be named Warden of the North.
Arya will take Jamie's face and try to do that to get close to Cersei and to kill Cersei, but will be stopped by the Mountain who, maybe being undead can see through her disguise? The Hound will save Arya and we get Clegane Bowl. While they're fighting, the real Jamie slips in and kills Cersei, thus fulfilling the Valonqar prophecy. The Mountain kills The Hound and then Jamie. Arya escapes and maybe goes back to Braavos?
Varys will do something to stop Tyrion from supporting Dany, and we'll likely see Tyrion die soon after he sees his sister fall.
Thus, all of Dany's closest friends/loves die this season, leaving her alone and friendless on the Iron Throne.
Jim__
(14,076 posts)If she has the baby before she is dispatched, and the baby survives, this baby will be in a position very similar to the position of Daenerys at the beginning of the series. A new pretender to the throne. The game continues.
tblue37
(65,343 posts)Besides her "will to power" drive to claim the throne, her only other strong motivator is revenge.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)He wont rule without Dany. Not happily. He would prefer to follow ghost to the north if Dany dies. I can see a twist coming where Dany loses her dragon, but learns she is pregnant with Jons baby. That is the one change that would allow Sansa to accept her, knowing the stark lineage will eventually make it to the throne. But dany needs Jon by her side to temper her worst instincts - those pointed out in the original thread above.
Oh, and dany had a dream that the throne was split in two. So why cant that mean that a king and queen rule together?
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Before the issue of soft tyranny becomes an issue
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Jon dies in battle... Dany dies in childbirth... Tyrion raises the heir.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Peter Dinklage wakes up in a bed with Lena Headey and tells her about the crazy medieval dream he just had.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)You have to replace all three over time. That's the real reason why "Communist" revolutions fail to deliver the change that people hoped for.
Revolutionaries tend to mimic the oppressive systems that they were raise under. "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss".
For real change to happen, people need to develop new political systems over time, gradually change their economic systems, and resolve bitter social injustices through reconciliation and forgiveness.
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Its like, everywhere, and people are enjoying themselves. I love high fantasy but didnt love those particular books, so I never got into it. Fun watching a cultural phenomenon though.