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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 09:42 AM May 2019

'Put them all in a gas chamber,' said Border militia member, 'go back to Hitler days' -- Report

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Xeni Jardin / 5:31 pm Mon May 6, 2019
‘Put them all in a gas chamber,’ said Border militia member, 'go back to Hitler days' — Report
“Why are we just apprehending them (…) not lining them up and shooting them? We have to go back to Hitler days and put them all in a gas chamber.”



Remember that US-Mexico border white supremacist terrorist group that published videos of members detaining hundreds migrants at gunpoint, with the Border Patrol's apparent tacit consent?

Today, we learn that one member of that racist New Mexico border militia told police that another fellow member once said, “Why are we...not lining them up and shooting them? We have to go back to Hitler days and put them all in a gas chamber,” reports Ken Klippenstein.

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Klipperstein obtained the documents under FOIA.

From his report:

“Why are we just apprehending them and not lining them up and shooting them,” a border militia member in New Mexico is alleged to have said of border migrants that the group had been monitoring.

“We have to go back to Hitler days and put them all in a gas chamber,” the militia member, Armando Gonzalez, is also alleged to have said. Gonzalez did not respond to multiple requests for comment by TYT.

The disturbing comments appear in an April 24 police report containing allegations by a former member of the militia group. The former member, Steven Brant, contacted the Sunland Park Police Department to notify them of what he called “terroristic threats” he had witnessed by the group. The report was produced by the Sunland Park Police Department and was obtained by TYT through a public records request.

On April 18, the border militia, which calls itself the United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), sparked national outrage after reportedly detaining about 200 border migrants, including several children, at gunpoint. After video surfaced appearing to show UCP impersonating Border Patrol — a federal offense — the FBI arrested UCP’s leader, Larry Mitchell Hopkins,.

Although the police report obtained by TYT does not mention UCP by name, Daniel Carranco, Sunland Park City Clerk, confirmed to TYT that UCP is the group referenced.


The police report is an interview of a militia member named Steven Brant who told police he went by the codename “Viper.”
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'Put them all in a gas chamber,' said Border militia member, 'go back to Hitler days' -- Report (Original Post) babylonsister May 2019 OP
Good God Almighty. spanone May 2019 #1
Some more of Trump's very fine people? Arkansas Granny May 2019 #2
And just this AM on a FB discussion someone said DJT was the most patriotic president ever. CurtEastPoint May 2019 #3
Did you remind them that he was a coward and draft dodger during Vietnam? Elwood P Dowd May 2019 #11
"Why are we...not lining them up and shooting them?" mahatmakanejeeves May 2019 #4
Said by Armando Garcia/Armando Delgado Gonzalez dalton99a May 2019 #5
Sounds like he WAS ready to take those comments in to action if he had not been asked lunasun May 2019 #6
Why are DUers surprised? It's always been about race IronLionZion May 2019 #7
Actually, having Armando Gonzalez as a member is good PR - it makes them "not racist" dalton99a May 2019 #8
They're still racist IronLionZion May 2019 #9
The American West was originally settled by Spaniards in the 1500s. trev May 2019 #23
Maybe MAGA is Make America "Germany Again" (n/t) thesquanderer May 2019 #10
Germany seems to be doing better than us these days AllyCat May 2019 #18
And where do these nuts draw the line should some other groups fall under the blaze of their ... SWBTATTReg May 2019 #12
Im so sick of MFM008 May 2019 #13
Wait a minute. Gas chambers? I thought he and his ilk were Holocaust deniers. yonder May 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid May 2019 #24
They went full Nazi. Never go full Nazi. Initech May 2019 #15
This does not surprise me Timmygoat May 2019 #16
Big Daddy probably gave his copy to Little Donnie sop May 2019 #20
Stunning information. This summary should be a thread on its own. badhair77 May 2019 #27
We're Americans. For us, "going back to the Hitler days" means... JHB May 2019 #17
I literally feel nauseated lunatica May 2019 #19
Never turn a blind eye sop May 2019 #21
This guy says what sixty million drumpf voters are all thinking. Takket May 2019 #22
There must be a cabinet position for this guy in the trump administration...he's a ringer. spanone May 2019 #25
K&R ck4829 May 2019 #26
Bet they're all pro-life also. badhair77 May 2019 #28
+1 ck4829 May 2019 #29

CurtEastPoint

(18,643 posts)
3. And just this AM on a FB discussion someone said DJT was the most patriotic president ever.
Tue May 7, 2019, 09:58 AM
May 2019

Goddamn these people are stupid, evil and just fucking mean.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
11. Did you remind them that he was a coward and draft dodger during Vietnam?
Tue May 7, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

Mommy and daddy Trump paid off a doctor to say Fat Donnie had bone spurs. Probably paid off some draft board members also. It's amazing how those bone spurs didn't keep him from playing golf and tennis at the country club.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,439 posts)
4. "Why are we...not lining them up and shooting them?"
Tue May 7, 2019, 10:00 AM
May 2019
SnittyGrappleHat Retweeted

Member of border militia that detained 200 migrants at gunpoint told police another member had said, “Why are we...not lining them up and shooting them? We have to go back to Hitler days and put them all in a gas chamber” per report I obtained under FOIA: https://tyt.com/stories/4vZLCHuQrYE4uKagy0oyMA/55ZimtgirWgUh9ZgMSPirI




lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. Sounds like he WAS ready to take those comments in to action if he had not been asked
Tue May 7, 2019, 10:24 AM
May 2019

to stop .
Other Steven guy "TViper "should know now what others have in mind but is going to form another group that will attract the same type of trigger nuts IMO

Also just being judgy but born 1966 in a 1990s suburban ...seems he could spend his extra time at an evening second job to save for a newer vehicle instead of time patrolling with a lust to kill
That's just me and beside the point

IronLionZion

(45,441 posts)
7. Why are DUers surprised? It's always been about race
Tue May 7, 2019, 10:33 AM
May 2019

they want a white nation. That's why they are white nationalists.

They post memes about nonwhites should go back to their country and fix their problems despite their ancestors coming here from Europe. They never tell whites to go back to Europe.

Being named "Armando Gonzalez" doesn't change anything. Stephen Miller is a self-hating Jew who would totally put his own family in the camps.

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
8. Actually, having Armando Gonzalez as a member is good PR - it makes them "not racist"
Tue May 7, 2019, 10:43 AM
May 2019

A few notable members of The Proud Boys are not white

David Duke endorsed Tulsi Gabbard


IronLionZion

(45,441 posts)
9. They're still racist
Tue May 7, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

ISIS posted videos with kittens and Nutella to show how normal they are. There are pictures of nonwhite Hitler youth back in the day because a German parent didn't want their mixed race kid to perish in the holocaust. It's all propaganda.

trev

(1,480 posts)
23. The American West was originally settled by Spaniards in the 1500s.
Tue May 7, 2019, 01:52 PM
May 2019

Hence all the Spanish site names.

Father Junipero Serra, anyone?

SWBTATTReg

(22,121 posts)
12. And where do these nuts draw the line should some other groups fall under the blaze of their ...
Tue May 7, 2019, 11:43 AM
May 2019

searchlights? These groups and people need to be stopped and stopped quickly before innocents are killed and/or hurt. Disgusting.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
13. Im so sick of
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:01 PM
May 2019

Maggots emboldened by the maggot in chief
And their lunitical ravings.
They should all be dragged into mental hospitals.

Response to yonder (Reply #14)

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
16. This does not surprise me
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:16 PM
May 2019

We all know how Trump's dad kept a copy of Mein Kampf by his bed! After all Trump's grandfather only came to the states when he was kicked out of Germany, Grandad was a pimp, and daddy was a con-man and slumlord, Donald has the same genes. Not one of them served in the military. What I don't understand is why black folks do not yell - kick tyhem out of our contry!
After all black folks have bee here for more than 200 years - Trumps group on since crooked pimp grandad.

sop

(10,177 posts)
20. Big Daddy probably gave his copy to Little Donnie
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:42 PM
May 2019

The Independent, March 20, 2017:

Donald Trump reportedly owned a copy of Adolf Hitler’s speeches and kept them in his bedside cabinet.

A 1990 Vanity Fair article about the billionaire businessman stated that Mr Trump’s then wife Ivana, said her husband owned a copy of “My New Order” – a printed collection of the Nazi leader’s speeches.

Marie Brenner, the article’s author, wrote: “Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, 'My New Order', which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.

“Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.”

Asked by Ms Brenner about the claim and whether his cousin, John Walter, had given him the book, Mr Trump responded: “Who told you that?"

He went on to explain that it was "his friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.”

Mr Davis told Vanity Fair: “I did give him a book about Hitler. But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

Ms Brenner suggested the businessman, who was suffering difficulties with his business at the time, may have been looking for inspiration in Hitler's "genius for propaganda" and the way he spun military defeats as great victories.

The article also claimed that John Walter would frequently greet his cousin by saying: “Heil Hitler”.

badhair77

(4,217 posts)
27. Stunning information. This summary should be a thread on its own.
Wed May 8, 2019, 07:24 AM
May 2019

It’s getting lost in this one and deserves more attention. Thanks for posting this.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
17. We're Americans. For us, "going back to the Hitler days" means...
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:24 PM
May 2019

...shooting at the "line them up" and "gas chamber" people, making them surrender and putting them on trial for their crimes. And when those crimes involved lining people up or gassing them, executing the guilty.

sop

(10,177 posts)
21. Never turn a blind eye
Tue May 7, 2019, 01:05 PM
May 2019

Hitler himself was approvingly described by the State Department in 1937 as a “moderate” between the extremes of the German left and right. Leading news outlets likewise saw “a new moderation in the political atmosphere” of Nazi Germany (New York Times, 3/7/33) or “indications of moderation” on Hitler’s part (Philadelphia Daily Bulletin, 1/30/33).

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