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themaguffin

(3,828 posts)
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:34 PM May 2019

What is Pelosi waiting for? Is it Mueller's upcoming testimony? Something else?

I feel like, she and others want something in the news cycle that will be the pivot point to take more action.

If not, then I just don't know.

I have thought that she has been pretty savy in handling trump, and realize that actions they take, have to be thought out, but I am at a loss right now.

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What is Pelosi waiting for? Is it Mueller's upcoming testimony? Something else? (Original Post) themaguffin May 2019 OP
I think it's clear she's kicking the can down the road to avoid impeachment manor321 May 2019 #1
Me too. Also our nation. Last night Rachel asked why the democratics don't already have the request triron May 2019 #6
She's waiting for the, "See, I told you impeachment wasn't worth it," sign BeyondGeography May 2019 #2
Meh, I have patience, watoos May 2019 #3
There is no way that 20 GOP senators will vote to remove trump Gothmog May 2019 #4
I didn't say anything about a vote themaguffin May 2019 #7
It's a calculated move oldtime dfl_er May 2019 #5
I'm not talking about a vote. themaguffin May 2019 #8
is over- mshasta May 2019 #9
I'm afraid she knows something we don't. Maybe she knows AJT May 2019 #10
She believes that impeachment would be a political loser. marylandblue May 2019 #11
Not sure but moondust May 2019 #12
Mango's 46% approval number needs to start moving down steadily librechik May 2019 #13
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. I think it's clear she's kicking the can down the road to avoid impeachment
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:36 PM
May 2019

She doesn't want to do impeachment, regardless of what the President has done.

I've never despaired more about the Democratic party.

triron

(22,026 posts)
6. Me too. Also our nation. Last night Rachel asked why the democratics don't already have the request
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:44 PM
May 2019

for the full Mueller report + underlying GJ stuff in court. The democrats she asked gave lame answers.
I am just dumbfounded.

BeyondGeography

(39,386 posts)
2. She's waiting for the, "See, I told you impeachment wasn't worth it," sign
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:38 PM
May 2019

Unfortunately, the signs are all pointed away from her preferred destination.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. Meh, I have patience,
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:39 PM
May 2019

if Mueller doesn't testify by May 15th it's time to impeach because Mueller may not ever get the chance otherwise.

Gothmog

(145,667 posts)
4. There is no way that 20 GOP senators will vote to remove trump
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:42 PM
May 2019

Without the vote of 20 GOP senators, impeachment is a waste of time. Does anyone really believe that 20 GOP senators will vote to remove trump?

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
5. It's a calculated move
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:43 PM
May 2019

because the current Senate will not vote to convict. I do think she and the rest of the Dems in the House need to move more swiftly on pre impeachment hearings or whatever you want to call them. I need to see Rod Rosenstein under oath on live tv, hopefully for 11 hours or more. I need to see Carter Page under oath, and Don McGahn and Reince Preibus and Sean Spicerand all the rest of them. I need a neverending parade of live telecast hearings. Get them under oath and watch them lie, squirm or TELL THE TRUTH. A constant parade, all summer long. Neverending. Until the American people finally understand what is going on.

That said, I also think Nancy Pelosi owes it to us to tell US the truth about why she isn't pressing for impeachment. "He's not worth it" just doesn't cut it. "The GOP will never convict" does, and needs to be said OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
9. is over-
Tue May 7, 2019, 12:47 PM
May 2019

individual 1 is going free for 2020
democrats are dancing the issue around, they don't know how to play the game

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. She believes that impeachment would be a political loser.
Tue May 7, 2019, 01:25 PM
May 2019

I agree with her. There is evidence from political science that suggests she is right. See, for example, the book "What is Populism," by Jan-Werner Muller. I suspect she has read it.

moondust

(20,017 posts)
12. Not sure but
Tue May 7, 2019, 02:21 PM
May 2019

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many Dump supporters seem to be rabid sociopaths who don't trust "rigged" gubment and could react badly to any attempt to hold their racist hero accountable. It's possible that was part of Dump's plan all along: demonize the "deep state" so that when it starts holding him accountable for his many crimes his base will go batshit crazy. Pelosi may have fears of some violent backlash and wants to be sure the evidence is undeniable. May also want Mueller to testify first.

librechik

(30,677 posts)
13. Mango's 46% approval number needs to start moving down steadily
Tue May 7, 2019, 03:28 PM
May 2019

as long as we see that number stable, we will lose in 2020. And we can't lose. We have to keep flogging how bad Trump is.

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