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(13,981 posts)
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:13 AM May 2019

I think more people would support impeachment IF

Congress proposed serious legislation at the same time dealing infrastructure, health, wages, education, immigration and other issues that people really care about. The people I talk to who are not liberals by any stretch of the imagination, acknowledge that Trump is a crook and has committed crimes against this country but they are worried about their own futures and the futures of their children. All they see and read about in the news is Trump, Trump, Trump. I think there would be a major change in attitude if Democrats in Congress began proposing legislation that directly affects their lives. I also think that Trump would not know how to handle that.

Pelosi and others keep talking about the fact that they can walk and chew gum at the same time. Let's see some of that. Let's knock Trump off the front page and get people engaged in things that will touch their lives.

I know some will say that taking this approach is hopeless because Trump and the Republicans won't go along but I think that's exactly the point. Show them up, don't just talk about it, do it!

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(15,333 posts)
1. The House has passed a lot of legislation this year
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:20 AM
May 2019

Vote protection, gun control, etc.

Mitch just ignores it all to cram in more unqualified judges.


(32,780 posts)
2. When you say "education "
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:24 AM
May 2019

Republicans care not about public education, they only care about grifting government money to pay for their Christian schools. Because everybody knows that public schools are nothing more than liberal endoctrination camps!

And, healthcare is a concern for them only as it applies to them. They hate to give “free healthcare” to “losers who refuse to get a job”.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. Good point. We should make the point that nothing can be done with Trump in office.
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:30 AM
May 2019

It's not just that he's corrupt. It said he's extremely lazy, and doesn't want to do anything that requires any work but would help the United States. so as long as he's in office, we're not going to have any infrastructure work, we're not going to have any innovation, and we're not going to have any big progress on medical or education.

His lackeys in the Senate won't do anything either as long as he's in there that they have to spend all their time protecting him. So the only way to get America going again is to get him out of office.


(4,904 posts)
4. Congress has been proposing legislation, Mitch refuses to bring things up for a vote in the Senate
Wed May 8, 2019, 09:33 AM
May 2019

Here's a link to the list of all proposed legislation from the 116th Congress -->https://www.c-span.org/congress/bills/


(90,475 posts)
6. We're around the same level of impeachment as with Nixon post tapes. There's no political
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:03 AM
May 2019

... reason to be against impeachment that stands up to the facts.

1. The party of the impeached has never fared well in elections post impeachment process irregardless of senate removal.
2. Clinton increased in popularity after senate refused to convict or remove but the democratic party did not.
3. Donald Trump is a grievance candidate, even if he's not removed by the senate he'll make something else up to whine about.
4. Trump is historically unpopular person

There's a good point in regards to timing of now but impeachment should be inevitable


(30,613 posts)
7. Had this discussion with my Fux-watchin mother in law yesterday.
Wed May 8, 2019, 10:13 AM
May 2019

She asked why, if Dems are so great, they haven't passed any laws to help regular people. I explained that House Dems have passsed multiple such bills, but Senate Repubs and Trump are blocking every single one of them. This appeared to come as a great surprise to her.


(13,981 posts)
9. That's my point although I guess I didn't express it very well...
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:02 PM
May 2019

if the news covered more of the legislative end of things and less of Trump, it would help more folks like your mother see what's really going on.


(30,613 posts)
10. It wouldn't help my mother-in-law; she watches Fux instead of news.
Wed May 8, 2019, 12:03 PM
May 2019

But yeah, more sensible folks might respond to that.

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