I am getting a little worried. From the beginning my biggest concern about Trump was this.

[shockey80]

Things would spin out of control and we would not be able to stop it. When Trump was elected I knew he was an idiot, Unqualified, incompetent, crooked and a complete asshole. I thought this could lead to complete chaos. 60 million Americans did not think Trump was any problem at all. Everything would be turn out fine. Yikes!

We are now on the verge of a major constitutional crisis. Our enemies are starting to fight back against Trump. It looks like China and Iran have had enough of Trumps bully foreign policy. Trump breaking the Iran deal may go down as one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in our history. The tariff game Trump is playing could hurt the world economy. Russia and other countries will probably fuck with the 2020 election.

In the past I have posted here about fate. I noticed a few people here do not believe in fate. I do, sometimes in history a certain event takes place that leads to disaster. No matter how hard people tried to end the disaster they could not. Fate took over, people lost control of their lives.

Our fate may have been sealed the moment Trump was elected. One thing is for sure, nobody can predict what is going to happen over the next two years. It may turn out OK, Not too much damage, but there is a chance things could turn really ugly and we will not be able to stop it.

[zaj]

1. "Fate" is a probability, and just because it's not 100%...

... doesn't mean it's not well above 50%.

[samnsara]

2. i too feel there will be a point of no return...

[a kennedy]

3. AND HIS DAMN APPROVAL IS GOING UP......via 538

https://fivethirtyeight.com/ I just do not understand this.

[Ohiogal]

4. Whenever I read shit like this

I am always reminded of John Lennon's remark...

"The masses is asses."

[RKP5637]

5. Absolutely true!!!!!!!! n/t

[world wide wally]

6. Keep in mind that Trump will do ANYTHING to save his own ass.

This includes throwing his country and even his own supporters under the stolen bus.

[cilla4progress]

7. Right...

It's the instability that is so terrifying.

I believe in fate. In the sense that sometimes people are called to step up, or, fate results in this: Churchill, FDR, Gorbachev!

Fate is something like chance, to me, not pre-determination by a greater power (which I don't believe in: pagan atheist humanist here). It's like karma or destiny. Life seeks a balance. Hard to define.

Where does it end? How does this end? Well, the climate and nature will have the last word, and it ain't gonna be pretty for millions of lifeforms. Of course, already happening.

It may all be connected...humans gone cray because in their bones they know.

[Bayard]

8. Maybe what the human race needs is a good old fashioned apocalypse

To put life in perspective. I favor zombies.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

9. This country will never be the same.

Even if Democrats take back the Senate and Presidency in 2020 and hold everything for the next 20 years. There will still be I can't imagine how many truly awful judges on the bench. Before we can re-instate things like environmental protection laws a lot more land will have been ruined. It will be incredibly difficult to resume taxes on the wealthy. And so on.

I often think that this must be a lot like it felt for decent Germans in the mid 1930s. (If you haven't already read In the Garden of the Beasts by Erik Larson stop right now, get the book, read it, then resume DU) They could see what was happening all around them and were helpless to stop it. Germany, to but it bluntly, had the good fortune to lose WWII. Their leadership was somewhat overhauled. Unfortunately, a lot of ex Nazis remained in power, but didn't continue Nazi horror. A new generation, by now several new generations, have grown up in a much better society. Not that Germany today is perfect, and it does have a problem with its own Neo Nazis and far right, but it has come back from the Nazi era.

Alas, we are not likely to be invaded, conquered, and forcibly brought back to decency.

[Wounded Bear]

10. We're not on the 'verge' of anything...

we're in the middle of a constitutional crisis.

It's ongoing. This is an attempt to institute one-party rule.

[Texin]

11. I don't know about fate, karma, but I do believe in consequences.

I believe that there's a price to be paid for actions and behaviors over time if not immediately. I knew tRump was a fraud. I was skeptical of his cognitive "abilities" and overall knowledge of how the world and government (really) work. What I was ill-prepared for was his total chaotic crap shooting. I actually thought he might be awed at the responsibility thrust on him and his maturity to be able to seek and heed the counsel of wiser and more experienced advisors. I was wrong. I was not totally surprised by this, because he has been the big fish in the small tRump Empire for a long time and a businessman is protected by his loyal (well compensated) underlings. He was heretofore been to conceal his complete irresponsibility and incompetence from the public, but the exposure of being POTUS* has made it abundantly clear that he and his swamp creatures are not only shockingly untalented and incompetent hacks, they are a clear and present danger to the actual existence of the people and the planet on which we live.

I believe I've lost hope. I don't remember the sage who said "We get the government we deserve." Perhaps we've devolved this much and this is what we deserve for being so oblivious to reality and to the consequences of our choices. I believe - I fear - we've crossed the Rubicon.