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And to think we once called Mueller a "patriot" (Original Post) SHRED May 2019 OP
Mueller apologists will be commenting soon. Nuggets May 2019 #1
He isn't going to testify SHRED May 2019 #2
Please explain why not testifying till May 20 or May 30 would make him less of a patriot. pnwmom May 2019 #10
Does he want a subpoena too? C_U_L8R May 2019 #3
Possibly briv1016 May 2019 #16
Why go all hopeless and doomy? He's still employed there. mahina May 2019 #4
It is what it is SHRED May 2019 #5
Sounds like a variation of the "just following orders" defense. John Fante May 2019 #12
Oh brother. He's leaving there. At ease. mahina May 2019 #14
"committee rule that hearings are announced seven days before they occur" greyl May 2019 #6
Not being able to testify on the 15th does not make him unpatriotic. Qutzupalotl May 2019 #7
What is the reasoning behind it? BigmanPigman May 2019 #8
Calm down Poiuyt May 2019 #9
Ugh. You're being logical and actually reading. herding cats May 2019 #15
Vietnam war hero. Patriotic enough. Did his job as Special Prosecutor. Not in his job description emmaverybo May 2019 #11
nothing there shows he isn't a patriot JI7 May 2019 #13
Disappointed in Mueller punting on obstruction, but he'll likely testify at some point soon. VOX May 2019 #17
To me, this is THE ball game. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #18
I think Mueller is living in a fantasyland past when Republicans were still halfway Vinca May 2019 #19
I love ya... I know you're eager (we all are!) ... but this is a crap post. NurseJackie May 2019 #20
 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
1. Mueller apologists will be commenting soon.
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:38 AM
May 2019

Can’t wait to hear how he’s a great patriot

Hope he testifies but I doubt he will.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
10. Please explain why not testifying till May 20 or May 30 would make him less of a patriot.
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:08 AM
May 2019

People seem to have forgotten that part of his job was running a counter-intelligence investigation in addition to the criminal investigation. I think he's probably still working on the report of his counter-intelligence investigation, and that's why he's still there.

If he was telling the House he didn't want to testify, they would be telling us that, and they would be subpoenaing him. They're not. I think they're waiting for him to be ready.

I noticed that he was about the only "name" in the DOJ who did NOT attend Rosenstein's farewell party the other day. That was interesting.

mahina

(17,649 posts)
4. Why go all hopeless and doomy? He's still employed there.
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:43 AM
May 2019

I just don’t see the point of amping the angst. Speaking for myself I’m already angst-ridden enough by this whole mess.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
5. It is what it is
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:50 AM
May 2019

This is by design.

They keep our hopes pinned to the latest revelations only to go nowhere.

How many more days will we watch pundits like Rachel bring issues to light only for them to go away?
How many times have you thought, "Well, that should do him in" only nothing happens.
Meanwhile our country is being sold.

I'm done getting my hopes up.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
6. "committee rule that hearings are announced seven days before they occur"
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:52 AM
May 2019

That's from the tweeted CNN link: https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/09/politics/robert-mueller-testimony-talks/index.html

Bolding mine:

May 15 is running into a committee rule that hearings are announced seven days before they occur.
"I don't think he's going to come in on the 15th, but it may be shortly thereafter," Nadler said on Thursday evening.

It's still possible Mueller could testify on May 15, because the seven-day rule can be waived. But Nadler's office doesn't expect that will be the case with Mueller's appearance.

Qutzupalotl

(14,307 posts)
7. Not being able to testify on the 15th does not make him unpatriotic.
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:54 AM
May 2019

He is still a DoJ employee, doing who knows what. Let him resign when he’s done, then he can testify without interference from Barr.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
8. What is the reasoning behind it?
Fri May 10, 2019, 12:56 AM
May 2019

Does he want Mueller to be free of DOJ employment. He said yesterday that it shouldn't matter whether or not he is part of the DOJ when he testifies. If tRump were to attempt to stop Mueller from testifying it doesn't have a chance of standing up in courts and they would subpoena him too, but Nadler said it wouldn't even get to that point. I don't know why this is happening and want more info.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
9. Calm down
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:08 AM
May 2019

From the article:

The committee is still trying to nail down a date for Mueller's testimony, and May 15 is running into a committee rule that hearings are announced seven days before they occur.

"I don't think he's going to come in on the 15th, but it may be shortly thereafter," Nadler said on Thursday evening.

It's still possible Mueller could testify on May 15, because the seven-day rule can be waived. But Nadler's office doesn't expect that will be the case with Mueller's appearance.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
15. Ugh. You're being logical and actually reading.
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:52 AM
May 2019

Hello?! We're supposed to set our hair on fire and run naked down the street... not actually think and read. Do catchup.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
11. Vietnam war hero. Patriotic enough. Did his job as Special Prosecutor. Not in his job description
Fri May 10, 2019, 01:19 AM
May 2019

to influence politics, save the country from Trump, or defy the law to testify. His investigation and the resulting report is the major reason the have real firepower to fight Trump with now.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. Disappointed in Mueller punting on obstruction, but he'll likely testify at some point soon.
Fri May 10, 2019, 02:43 AM
May 2019

I’m no big fan of Mueller, when he had a huge opportunity to really stick it to the lawless Cult45.

But if the tug-of-war over subpoenas, documents, etc. keeps on, I think it’s likely that Mueller will testify. He’s still employed, and he’s such a straight-arrow, it’ll be after he leaves his post.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
18. To me, this is THE ball game.
Fri May 10, 2019, 06:56 AM
May 2019

Very few people will ever read the report.
Mueller must testify that Barr’s summarizations were wrong.
If not, Trump escapes and will feel emboldened.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
19. I think Mueller is living in a fantasyland past when Republicans were still halfway
Fri May 10, 2019, 07:52 AM
May 2019

normal. It's hard to imagine someone with his reputation would flush it for the likes of our wannabe, orange dictator. He still has a chance to be the hero in this story. Hero or lemming . . . probably lemming.

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