Pence claims Trump will ask Supreme Court to bar judges from blocking his policies

[babylonsister]

Nothing is too low for him/them to go; absolutely no shame.


Pence claims Trump will ask Supreme Court to bar judges from blocking his policies
Vice president says administration hopes high court will end "nationwide injunctions" that shut down policy

Igor Derysh
May 10, 2019 10:00AM (UTC)


In a speech before the right-wing Federalist Society, Vice President Mike Pence complained about federal courts blocking the Trump administration’s policies from taking effect. He said President Trump would take the issue to the Supreme Court.

Pence told the crowd that federal judges who issue nationwide injunctions against Trump’s policies “prevent the executive branch from acting, compromising our national security by obstructing the lawful ability of the president to stop threats to the homeland where he sees them.”

“The Supreme Court of the United States must clarify that district judges can decide no more than the cases before them,” Pence said. “A Supreme Court justice has to convince four of his colleagues to uphold a nationwide injunction — but a single district court judge can issue one, effectively preventing the duly-elected president of the United States from fulfilling his constitutional duties. This judicial obstruction is unprecedented. In the days ahead, our administration will seek opportunities to put this question before the Supreme Court.”

The Trump administration previously tried to take up this issue before the Supreme Court when appealing an injunction against its travel ban. But the high court never ruled on the underlying issue because they upheld the ban in its entirety, the Associated Press reported.

Courts will often issue injunctions while a case plays out. Nationwide injunctions apply to everyone as opposed to injunctions that only apply to people who brought the lawsuit.

According to Pence, the Trump administration apparently wants the Supreme Court to bar lower courts from issuing nationwide injunctions — even if the administration's policies violate the law.

A White House official told AP that the administration would look for cases that could press the Supreme Court to take up the issue.

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[Afromania]

1. Does this momo ass think the supreme court is some sort of magic elixer to make him a dictator?

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Yes, and it very well may be.

[Afromania]

6. Republicans are losing and are going to lose. The game has been uncovered and they are trying their

damnndest to make a mess while heading out the door. What they don't seem to understand is that there are going to be elections and they are going to continue lose, and once they do. They'll have to deal with us wielding the tools they put in place. Not only will we wield them but it will be for something more than trying to control womens bodies and making rich people richer.

[sinkingfeeling]

7. Election in 2020 isn't going to change the makeup of SCOTUS.

Unless all RW justices are struck by lightning and Dems control Senate.

[Afromania]

8. Pack the court. We are in rediculous times and it calls for rediculous measures.

Not to be trite but we are in the endgame now. No more time for us to be cautious about getting ourselves, and the world, on track for better things.

[sinkingfeeling]

10. Good idea after we regain control. However, the decision IQ45 and Pence are

seeking will have long been made by then.

[Afromania]

11. Then we use it against them and start undoing things. Then pack the court, then close the door.

Whatever we have to do once we get it back. Whether they do this, or not, we get ready for battle. What they do now is not the end.

[Grasswire2]

14. WE PACK THE COURT!

Fully justified in order to restore the balance of powers and protect the Constitution from this putsch.

[sinkingfeeling]

15. How? Without all the RW justices vacating their seats? Are you saying we

increase the number of SCOTUS justices?

[standingtall]

18. That's what we should do

we would need to repeal the legislative filibuster in order to repeal the 1869 law that limits the number of supreme court justices to 9, and I would even go further by adding as many new states as we can to protect our changes to the court. Of course to do all these things we will need the Presidency,the Senate and the House.

[Grasswire2]

20. yes

DC becomes a state
Puerto Rico too

That's four Dem senators.

[Grasswire2]

19. absolutely nt

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. He thinks that since he picked some of them, they owe him a favor.

his mob boss thinking. which has not worked so far, but his learning curve is exceedingly short.

Lindsey said he would be calling Chief Justice Roberts about some issue with the FISA courts.

[MattP]

3. So his unconstitutional laws can't be challenged

[Eyeball_Kid]

5. It's the power grab of an emerging dictator. Fascism is HERE, folks.

Cream with your coffee?

[lpbk2713]

4. Trump is an unabashed fascist.

The Constitution is just an annoying old scrap of paper to him.

[Celerity]

21. this is not hyperbole

The breadth and depth of his fundamental and systemic undoing of most any state (not State, but state as in the federal apparatus) impediment to a government by presidential fiat is staggering.

[BSdetect]

9. He wants to restore the "Divine Right of Kings" - just for him and his offspring.

[northoftheborder]

12. The state of things in this country is truly beginning to scare me........

I naively, perhaps, believed the systems would work------

[Ilsa]

13. I'm scared.

I'm beginning to wonder how many of them (GOPers) have to become chronically, seriously ill, or die, before we see the threat against our Constitution die?

[Celerity]

22. There are thousands of new spawn ready, willing, and able to take their places, and they are of an

even more extreme archetype.

If we fail to get a fair census in 2020 (and win back a tonne of state chambers in 2020) the Rethugs will have another decade of gerrymandering at multiple levels to further entrench a fundamentally extreme RW form at control, especially within the State governments, but also the US House.

If Trump wins re-election, and we fail to take back the Senate, he may very well likely will get to replace RBG, Breyer, and maybe even the chronically ill Sotomayor, we are staring down. An 8-1 radical RW SCOTUS for a decade plus will be disastrous for most all civil rights and protections. He also will litter the lower Federal courts with dozens of more fundie RW'ers. The poisonous legacy will take decades to undo.

At some point in the next 20 or so (maybe even less) years (especially if the above scenarios actually happen) we are going to start to see the country become unwoven. If the Federal government goes full RW in mandates to all the states, you are going to have the Blue States rebel, and a huge wave of secessionist thrust stat to take place. By 2040 (at the latest) a full 70% of the Senate will be controlled by only 30% of the population. That 30% is far less educated, older, far more rural, far more Fundie xian, reactionary, and white than the other 70% of the population.

It is the 250 year or so ticking constitutional time bomb that has no fix. The Electoral College issue can be sorted by simply increasing the size of the House dramatically (and then distributing the seats, and thus the EV's, much more fairly) OR by a Constitutional Amendment doing away with it altogether (much harder to get done). There is no fix for the Senate, other than adding new states (DC, Puerto Rico are the only two really feasible moves), which is, again, only a partial solution and will extraordinary hard to do as well. California could also be split into 2, which, combined with PR and DC, would give us 6 new Dem seats. THAT would solve it for decades to come.

We also seriously have to look at expanding the SCOTUS to 15 seats or so, and packing the court. The bad thing is, IF the Rethugs get an 8-1 RW court under Trump, even adding SIX new LW SCOTUS justices will still leave the RW with a mjoritory (albeit precarious).

If none of these fixes (expand the House, add new States, ultimately do away with the EC, etc) happen, and if Trump does take the court to 8-1 RW (or even 7-2, which is extremely likely if he wins re-election),and IF The Rethgs maintain state chamber control after the 2020 Census and further gerrymander, I predict the nation starts to unwind and will be teetering on dissolution by 2050 (when I would be 54 years old, so I would deffo (knock on wood) live to see this), perhaps sooner. I am not a person who suffers from normalcy bias, so this is not a near impossibility to me at all, not in the slightest. The systemic underpinnings are all in place.

[dixiegrrrrl]

17. I am for sure very much alert and concerned.

the House and the courts are our thin line of defense, and trump is acting as if the supreme court is in his pocket. It's not, but it does reveal how these guys are thinking.

Their attitude is very striking. Haughty, hostile, arrogant, and very determined. We HAVE TO get everyone to vote in 2020,
and then have to change to unhackable voting methods.