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Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:02 AM May 2019

Rudy Giuliani Cancels His Trip to Ukraine, Blaming Democrats' 'Spin'

Facing withering attacks accusing him of seeking foreign assistance for President Trump’s re-election campaign, Rudolph W. Giuliani announced on Friday night that he had canceled a trip to Kiev in which he planned to push the incoming Ukrainian government to press ahead with investigations that he hoped would benefit Mr. Trump.

Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, explained that he felt like he was being “set up,” and he blamed Democrats for trying to “spin” the trip.

“They say I was meddling in the election — ridiculous — but that’s their spin,” he said.

Mr. Giuliani said on Thursday that he had hoped to meet in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, with the nation’s president-elect and urge him to pursue inquiries that could yield new information about two matters of intense interest to Mr. Trump. One is the origin of the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. The other is the involvement of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s son in a gas company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/11/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine.html



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Rudy Giuliani Cancels His Trip to Ukraine, Blaming Democrats' 'Spin' (Original Post) Arkansas Granny May 2019 OP
Ignorant move on Rudy's True Blue American May 2019 #1
The ignorance began when Rudy admitted that he was going to Ukraine Arkansas Granny May 2019 #5
Yes,it did! True Blue American May 2019 #24
He must have meant the Oranges of the Investigation? ginnyinWI May 2019 #26
Even Repukes were freaking out over his "trip" FakeNoose May 2019 #9
Lock him up musicman65 May 2019 #28
If his intentions had been for the good... sazemisery May 2019 #2
Seriously, Mr Guiliani ... Mike Niendorff May 2019 #3
He cancelled because the president was going to snub him, watoos May 2019 #4
Why did it say "accusing" instead of "reporting" ? rickford66 May 2019 #6
Waste of a Perfectly Good Meme Roy Rolling May 2019 #7
But a number of commentators said that now that he has made his intentions known in public pdsimdars May 2019 #8
You don't think that part of the message watoos May 2019 #15
I don't know what you are saying. . he gave his "message" to them out loud so he doesn't need to go pdsimdars May 2019 #21
Accused him of doing what he said he was going to do? UpInArms May 2019 #10
Apparently that is called spinning these days. Arkansas Granny May 2019 #16
Damn, maybe if we keep 'spinning' we can spin the asshole out of office? spanone May 2019 #11
I'd be willing to give that a try. Arkansas Granny May 2019 #14
lol, he was outed and the corrupt hate being outed beachbum bob May 2019 #12
Cookie jar Smackdown2019 May 2019 #13
If it walks like a duck...eom LittleGirl May 2019 #17
Don't you think Putin said "No"? gordianot May 2019 #18
First of all, there was no there there, watoos May 2019 #19
Does Rudy have security clearance? mgardener May 2019 #20
Deport Rudy. rec, nt. Mc Mike May 2019 #22
Scooby Doo Meme Time rpannier May 2019 #23
Wow. Who would have thought it? Paladin May 2019 #25
Joe DiGenova announced on Faux kskiska May 2019 #27
It looks bad Proud Liberal Dem May 2019 #29
Just some more of that "no collusion" that Trump keeps yammering about. Arkansas Granny May 2019 #30

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
1. Ignorant move on Rudy's
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:14 AM
May 2019

Part. You can bet more than Democratic spin stopped him.

That poor man needs to be put in a skilled Nursing Home. He is pathetic. Long past a joke.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
5. The ignorance began when Rudy admitted that he was going to Ukraine
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:09 AM
May 2019

with the purpose of meddling in an investigation.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
24. Yes,it did!
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:37 AM
May 2019

Sure sign the old man has a screw loose. And I say this as an old woman still clicking.

Except when it comes to typing.

sazemisery

(2,608 posts)
2. If his intentions had been for the good...
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:22 AM
May 2019

he would not have canceled. Cast your blame in the right direction, asshat.

Mike Niendorff

(3,461 posts)
3. Seriously, Mr Guiliani ...
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:32 AM
May 2019

You seriously thought you could get away with this?

In broad daylight?

Wow have you people had it easy the last 20 years.

SHAME!!!


MDN
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. He cancelled because the president was going to snub him,
Sat May 11, 2019, 06:37 AM
May 2019

wasn't going to meet with him. Trump isn't respected in Ukraine and I wonder why? Ukraine just got done kicking Russian puppets out of power, why would the president of Ukraine meet with the lawyer for another Russian puppet?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
8. But a number of commentators said that now that he has made his intentions known in public
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:07 AM
May 2019

he doesn't really need to go. He's told them the message. Now he can do it by phone.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
15. You don't think that part of the message
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:34 AM
May 2019

delivered privately wouldn't have involved black mail? Give me dirt on Biden or you don't get weapons and our support against Russia.

What are the names of the "number of commentators?"

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
21. I don't know what you are saying. . he gave his "message" to them out loud so he doesn't need to go
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:50 AM
May 2019

Message delivered.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
10. Accused him of doing what he said he was going to do?
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:20 AM
May 2019


Mr. Giuliani said on Thursday that he had hoped to meet in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, with the nation’s president-elect and urge him to pursue inquiries that could yield new information about two matters of intense interest to Mr. Trump. One is the origin of the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. The other is the involvement of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s son in a gas company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

Smackdown2019

(1,186 posts)
13. Cookie jar
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:33 AM
May 2019

That cookie jar got robbed so many times, it was down to the last one and little Rudy didn't want to be one that was Publicly caught taking the last one. Bad Rudy.... now go into the white house corner and say sorry to your Master....

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
18. Don't you think Putin said "No"?
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:39 AM
May 2019

After all the Ukraine is not part of the program and not exactly friendly to the Russian Federation.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
19. First of all, there was no there there,
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:41 AM
May 2019

Republicans publicized the trip to make it sound scary, like there was really some dark secrets that were going to be revealed. The whole event was a nothingburger.

Second of all, the president elect of Ukraine wanted no part of the scam, he wasn't going to meet with Ghouliani, which would have been quite the snub.

Trump cut his losses and cancelled the meeting, on to the next mud slinging event.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
20. Does Rudy have security clearance?
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:48 AM
May 2019

And in what universe is what Rudy was planning to do not election tampering?
Isn't he asking a foreign government for assistance in a federal election????

Paladin

(28,255 posts)
25. Wow. Who would have thought it?
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:43 AM
May 2019

A maneuver so ham-handed, corrupt and subject to ridicule that even Giuliani would pull out of it. Makes my day.

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