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Sun May 12, 2019, 05:15 PM

Professor's Impeachment Prediction Based On 'Deep Study' Of Trump's Character, Career

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/12/722647643/professor-s-impeachment-prediction-based-on-deep-study-of-trump-s-character-care

May 12, 20195:09 PM ET

Heard on All Things Considered

NPR's Michel Martin speaks with American University professor Allan Lichtman about the prediction he made two years ago that President Trump will be impeached.

(The audio is now available. I listened to the broadcast and believe he has the strongest argument I have heard for impeachment)

Allan Jay Lichtman is an American political historian who teaches at American University in Washington, D.C. He is well known for predicting most of the presidential winners in the United States Presidential Election since 1984, including forecasting the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election remarkably early. Wikipedia

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Reply Professor's Impeachment Prediction Based On 'Deep Study' Of Trump's Character, Career (Original post)
G_j May 2019 OP
orangecrush May 2019 #1
underpants May 2019 #2
Irishxs May 2019 #3
G_j May 2019 #4
aikoaiko May 2019 #5
jaysunb May 2019 #6
aikoaiko May 2019 #15
earthshine May 2019 #17
G_j May 2019 #7
wryter2000 May 2019 #8
G_j May 2019 #10
wryter2000 May 2019 #11
sarabelle May 2019 #19
wryter2000 May 2019 #20
FarPoint May 2019 #9
calimary May 2019 #12
TygrBright May 2019 #13
G_j May 2019 #18
earthshine May 2019 #14
G_j May 2019 #16

Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:19 PM

1. Just listened to it


Very interesting.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:21 PM

2. 🔊

I want to hear this. Marking

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:24 PM

3. Just heard it, also. Impeach ! Impeach!

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Response to Irishxs (Reply #3)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:31 PM

4. That was powerful

recommended listening!

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:34 PM

5. Did he have anything to say about conviction in the Senate?


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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #5)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:48 PM

6. That shouldn't matter. n/t

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #6)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:49 PM

15. My point is if the professor is making predictions, I'd like to hear that one, too.


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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #15)

Sun May 12, 2019, 08:22 PM

17. I heard a TV pundit say this ...

 

Sorry, I do not recall the name of the person who was being interviewed, but this is what she said ...

- Start impeachment in the house. It will give the congress additional powers to investigate.
- Air the dirty laundry. Let the world see every one of Trump's transgressions.
- Do it all slowly. Run out the clock such that there cannot be a trial in the senate before the elections.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #5)

Sun May 12, 2019, 05:50 PM

7. It seemed to me

his prediction is that they will have to come around.

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Response to G_j (Reply #7)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:06 PM

8. Then, he's not paying attention

They will never come around.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #8)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:52 PM

10. Just give a listen

Once the audio is posted

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Response to G_j (Reply #10)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:27 PM

11. Something he said

Is going to change Mitch McConnell's behavior?

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #11)

Mon May 13, 2019, 06:37 AM

19. It's not the point. We must change McConnell's behavior by putting him out of office.

 

It can be done. We have allowed the media and the pols to brainwash us into believing that we shouldn't waste our time, effort, and money in trying to unseat some of these gerrymandered devils at the polls. I don't buy it. Of course, if we don't run a viable candidates and challenge every gerrymandered seat we won't win. But we may be pleasantly surprised if we run challengers on BOTH sides to challenge folks like McConnell. One candidate to divide the voters on their side and weaken McConnell, and one candidate on our side to unify the disenfranchised vote and give us a win.

Here are two things that work in our favor: (1) a lot of even GOPers are now seeing the light. They may never vote for a DEM but they might stay home or vote for another GOP candidate. (2) there is a sort of diaspora among GOP voters because of climate change and the horrific weather patterns that have caused so much damage to life styles and living conditions across a wide and deep red-belt. Many have dispersed among us in the blue states but there votes won't count as much in most areas. These are the mostly rich who could afford to move and the poorer folks who were forced to move but who will take more than 18 months to establish permanent residence anywhere in a blue state. There is enough dissatisfaction among the displaced that it will make a difference in voting in 2020 no matter what the polls are telling you now. I know some folks who were die-hard Trumpsters who will not be voting for him or any GOPer in 2020 but they will not tell anyone, including a pollster this. They are embarrassed and angry people but many are now pretty desperate for a stable life situation. I know four families who fit into this category and if I know four families, there must be many more out there. KEEP HOPE ALIVE! YES WE CAN!

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Response to sarabelle (Reply #19)

Mon May 13, 2019, 03:11 PM

20. So, what you're saying is...

Things will change after the 2020 election. True, but Trump will lose and be removed from office then for all the reasons you list.

It's all fine and good to impeach him because he clearly needs to be impeached, but I don't think we accomplish much beyond a symbolic statement if we can't also remove him from office.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:38 PM

9. I am also going to Bookmark..

I need inspiration...

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #9)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:32 PM

12. Same here. Not in a position to cue the audio at the moment.

But when I can, you bet I will!

I could use some inspiration too.

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:36 PM

13. Could someone link when there's a transcript, pls? Thx... n/t

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Response to G_j (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 07:40 PM

14. Here's some video with Allan Lichtman discussing these topics.

 

To paraphrase Dr. Lichtman:

- Trump must be impeached or the Democrats will be relegated to the dust bin of history.
- If Trump is not impeached, he will win re-election (and the rule-of-law will be lost).
- Now is not the time for the Dems to be timid. History rewards the bold; not the timid.
- Dems play to not-lose. They do not play to win.



In the video, David Pakman seems star struck by Lichtman. Hey, why not? This is one smart dude!

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Response to earthshine (Reply #14)

Sun May 12, 2019, 08:10 PM

16. thank you, and the audio is now available

from the NPR broadcast at the link in the OP.

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