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Ohiogal

(31,989 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:56 AM May 2019

Eugene Robinson: Trump has no idea what he's doing

The thing to keep in mind about President Trump, as he thrashes around like a weak swimmer in a strong current, is that he has no idea what he’s doing. None. Not a clue.

I know that he can be clever politically, in a tactical sense. I know that his lies are often both deliberate and effective. I know that his utter shamelessness can sometimes come off as some kind of warped genius. But the only thing that’s profound about Trump is the truly spectacular depth of his ignorance. As evidence, take a glance — if you dare — at your 401(k).

The president’s decision last week to unilaterally boost tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese imports produced an entirely predictable response — retaliatory tariffs from Beijing on $60 billion worth of U.S. products, a freakout by the financial markets and a screaming plunge in the Dow and other major indexes.

The administration’s trade talks with China had reportedly been going well and were supposed to be nearing an end. Trump accused the Chinese of trying to renege on concessions at the last minute, but the president’s history suggests otherwise. Veterans of the high-stakes world of New York real estate have told me about what they described as Trump’s standard negotiating practice — pitching some kind of fit at the very last minute, when the other party thought things were settled, in hopes of bullying his way to a better deal.

(snip)

I assume Trump realizes that China isn’t really “paying” the tariffs and that the cost is in fact borne by U.S. consumers, who will pay higher prices for made-in-China goods. Either the president constantly lies about this on his Twitter feed, hoping to fool the gullible, or he’s even more clueless about trade than I imagined.

More:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-no-idea-what-hes-doing/2019/05/13/a3e6a626-75c0-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html?utm_term=.a58a1be73f5c&wpisrc=nl_opinions&wpmm=1

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Eugene Robinson: Trump has no idea what he's doing (Original Post) Ohiogal May 2019 OP
Damn. I was just about to shop for a new TV. Chipper Chat May 2019 #1
We should all forego making major purchases if possible until 11/3/20. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #2
Jan 21, 2021...lame ducks can still do a lot of damage flor-de-jasmim May 2019 #10
Bottom line . . . . Iliyah May 2019 #3
That has long been obvious to anyone who has been paying attention. GoCubsGo May 2019 #4
We all know trump doesn;t know what he is doing, the economic policies, trade and tarriffs are all beachbum bob May 2019 #5
Trump wants you to think in terms of a binary world of winners and losers. gordianot May 2019 #6
The last sentences in the column PJMcK May 2019 #7
He's not "clever politically" he receives free total media coverage nonstop underpants May 2019 #8
Sadly, and even though it will affect those of us who didn't vote for him, this is probably the only llmart May 2019 #9
True. moondust May 2019 #11
Trump doesn't know what he's doing NewJeffCT May 2019 #12
trump is an idiot Gothmog May 2019 #13
I believe he'll back off the tariffs. Pobeka May 2019 #14
He has to turn it into a "win" first FakeNoose May 2019 #18
Yup. That's how it will be talked about in his head at least! n/t Pobeka May 2019 #19
I'll take "more clueless than you ever imagined" for $500, Gene... Raster May 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author yonder May 2019 #16
They don't call this man a Pulitzer Prize-winner for nothing. calimary May 2019 #17

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
4. That has long been obvious to anyone who has been paying attention.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:10 AM
May 2019

Trump is a certified moron. The asshole bankrupted a casino, ffs. How the hell does anyone bankrupt a business where the house always wins??? It's not just regarding the tariffs, either. He's clueless on pretty much everything his job entails. The "gullible" people he fools are just as clueless and ignorant as he is. Or, they're too blinded by their own hate and bigotry to notice that he has no idea what he's doing.

That being said, I hope my ancient washer and dryer don't die on me...

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. We all know trump doesn;t know what he is doing, the economic policies, trade and tarriffs are all
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:13 AM
May 2019

part of the rightwing neo-economist he surrounds himself with. Like I said a day or 2 ago...those people are as fucked up in the head with economics and trade as the neo-conservatives Bushco was surround with and the Iraq war and Middle east disaster.

We will see the effect and the subsequent destruction of OUR economy pretty darn quick

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
6. Trump wants you to think in terms of a binary world of winners and losers.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:13 AM
May 2019

Of course he wants you to think he is a winner where his entire life has been about losing and covering it up.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
7. The last sentences in the column
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:14 AM
May 2019

This says all that we need to know about Trump:

There are many fitting words to describe the Trump administration. One of the simplest is “dumb.”

underpants

(182,788 posts)
8. He's not "clever politically" he receives free total media coverage nonstop
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:31 AM
May 2019

which was the biggest factor in his both winning the primary (with less than a majority of votes) and the general (again less than a majority). You simply can’t buy that level of product placement and he stated just that between wrapping up their nomination and their convention.

I call him the “Snuggie POTUS”. It started as a joke but over time people bought into it if, as many did, they thought it was a funny joke because who cares? The media was constantly telling them that Hillary had won.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
9. Sadly, and even though it will affect those of us who didn't vote for him, this is probably the only
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:38 AM
May 2019

thing that will get more voters to vote against him. The economy and stock market are what most Americans measure the success of our experience in democracy.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
11. True.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:42 AM
May 2019

Tariffs are relics of the old days of nation-state trade before globalized supply chains and distribution channels. Tariffs on today's iPhones "imported" from China could end up hurting all kinds of people in all kinds of places since they are not simply a product of China.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. Trump doesn't know what he's doing
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:43 AM
May 2019

but, some of the people around him are reasonably smart and evil - Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Brad Parscale, etc

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
14. I believe he'll back off the tariffs.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:48 AM
May 2019

This and 10 cents probably won't get a cup of coffee, but here's my reasoning.

He is probably quite aware if he totally crashes the markets, he'll have absolutely no chance of winning re-election. I suspect his "trusted" advisers are telling him that, and he probably believes them.

Given that, and his huge criminal vulnerabilities which will come to action at the fed/state level should he not be president, winning in 2020 is his only stay-out-of-jail game plan. So his best option by far is to back off the tariffs and let the market recover.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
18. He has to turn it into a "win" first
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:01 AM
May 2019

I agree with you that Chump will back off because he has to. It's an absolutely stupid asinine policy anyway and he has been advised against it from the get-go. When he finally does back away from tariffs, it will be all his idea because he "won" the trade war against the Asians.

Response to Ohiogal (Original post)

calimary

(81,238 posts)
17. They don't call this man a Pulitzer Prize-winner for nothing.
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

I love Eugene Robinson’s work! Every time I’ve finished a tasty piece he’s written and wonder how he could top it, sure enough he comes up with another one that does.

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