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hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:49 PM May 2019

How does your state and region stand if Roe "falls": a state by state analysis

https://www.reproductiverights.org/what-if-roe-fell <--Lots of data on this site--worth taking a look



Obviously, states that have not passed state-specific bans on abortion in the event of Roe being overturned could certainly do so. The link for this data includes the status of legislatures in each of the states. Colorado has had its fights and will again, especially given it will become a regional destination from all the surrounding states.

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How does your state and region stand if Roe "falls": a state by state analysis (Original Post) hlthe2b May 2019 OP
Fight bdamomma May 2019 #1
I would have thought Illinois would have been very low. nycbos May 2019 #2
This analysis is dated Feb. 21, 2019, so not sure if that change is included... hlthe2b May 2019 #3
Yes He did . Promised Illinois would be the "Most Progressive State" on Abortion lunasun May 2019 #14
This needs updating. MuseRider May 2019 #4
The analysis dates to 2/21/19 so it is pretty current, but yes, KS has seen some changes. hlthe2b May 2019 #5
Thanks! MuseRider May 2019 #6
You have a State Supreme Court that actually seems to follow the KS constitution... hlthe2b May 2019 #7
Brownback was almost able to kill that. MuseRider May 2019 #12
How was he stopped? hlthe2b May 2019 #18
I am not sure about Missouri SlogginThroughIt May 2019 #8
KS did. MO on the other hand just passed a ban after 8 weeks through their Senate. hlthe2b May 2019 #9
You're assuming the Republicans never re-take the House, Senate and Presidency at the same time. briv1016 May 2019 #10
THIS. NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #11
I assume NOTHING. Rather this assumes Roe is overturned and becomes state by state propposition hlthe2b May 2019 #19
When they eventually retake all 3 their first priority will be to pass a federal ban. briv1016 May 2019 #21
You are clearly not understanding the legalities nor did you read my post. hlthe2b May 2019 #22
You really think when they eventually re-take all 3 they'll just leave it be? briv1016 May 2019 #23
Up until the midterms, they had exactly that (as they have in the past as well). NO I do not hlthe2b May 2019 #24
I guess after a week like this I don't have that level of trust. briv1016 May 2019 #25
I understand completely. n/t hlthe2b May 2019 #26
Gloria Steinem was on Amanpour tonite. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #13
This was one of the least offensive things I've ever read in my life renate May 2019 #16
Thank you. I have a sense of relief. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #17
Don't feel you have anything to apologize for. Choice means any range of choices, but likewise hlthe2b May 2019 #20
It's not just this issue as you can well see. sprinkleeninow May 2019 #28
These bible-thumping PatrickforO May 2019 #15
One thing FL got right - it's state constitution enshrines the right of women for privacy. lark May 2019 #27

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
2. I would have thought Illinois would have been very low.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:58 PM
May 2019

Pritzker signed some pro choice initiatives his first week in office I thought

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
14. Yes He did . Promised Illinois would be the "Most Progressive State" on Abortion
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:28 AM
May 2019
https://healthcareweekly.com/illinois-abortion-rights/

Evenformer repug Rauner signed off on the taxpayer-funded abortion law and to keep up state laws if Roe was turned , and isn’t that one of the reasons he was primaried for the repug nomination by an ultra conservative ?
so not sure about this map re IL

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
4. This needs updating.
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:20 PM
May 2019

Kansas now allows abortion and will protect the right of its citizens to have one even if the Federal Government gets rid of Roe v Wade.

**That is until the R's get their bright and shiny constitutional amendment ready to make it impossible to ever get one. We will see how they do with that.

hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
5. The analysis dates to 2/21/19 so it is pretty current, but yes, KS has seen some changes.
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:22 PM
May 2019

I'm sure if the group gets the donations I'd expect would follow, they will be updating more frequently.

hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
7. You have a State Supreme Court that actually seems to follow the KS constitution...
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:28 PM
May 2019

Perhaps the extremists in the legislature and the Kris Kobach ilk thought they could bamboozle your justices. I'm relieved to see they could not.

MuseRider

(34,108 posts)
12. Brownback was almost able to kill that.
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:34 PM
May 2019

He wanted to get rid of them and go from elected positions to appointments. He was planning on appointing them to lifetime positions. We were so close to that, it was a scary time.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
8. I am not sure about Missouri
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:00 PM
May 2019

Didn't they just say that their state constitution basically protects a woman's body?

hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
9. KS did. MO on the other hand just passed a ban after 8 weeks through their Senate.
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:05 PM
May 2019

So the flaming red high risk status DEFINITELY applies to Missouri

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article230493789.html

hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
19. I assume NOTHING. Rather this assumes Roe is overturned and becomes state by state propposition
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:54 AM
May 2019

It is current to 2/21/19. And, as clearly stated, even in relatively safe Colorado, this could change in a heartbeat with a turnover of STATE legislature to Republicans. If ROE is overturned the most likely RESULTING scenario (and one which Congressional R's have argued for decades) it becomes a state issue and SCOTUS would thus turn the decision back to the states. If that does happen it would be very difficult for a CONGRESS to try to legislate on top of that in a way that would pass constitutional muster.

It is a not uncommon misconception that if ROE is overturned then abortion automatically becomes illegal throughout the country. That is NOT the case. It falls to the states.

Don't believe me. Countless legal opinions have been published on this. Laurence Tribe. Neal Katayal, Norm Eisen, Walter Dillenger, Erwin Chemerinsky, Edward Lazarus, Cass Sunstein, and on and on and on... EVEN RW-leaning legal scholars agree.

If Roe v Wade is overturned, will abortion become illegal in the US?
In the absence of Roe v Wade, a woman's access to abortion would be affected by the state she lives in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44713614

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
21. When they eventually retake all 3 their first priority will be to pass a federal ban.
Fri May 17, 2019, 08:44 AM
May 2019

They can't help themselves.

hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
22. You are clearly not understanding the legalities nor did you read my post.
Fri May 17, 2019, 08:46 AM
May 2019

Have a nice day, but do some reading.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
23. You really think when they eventually re-take all 3 they'll just leave it be?
Fri May 17, 2019, 09:04 AM
May 2019

We're dealing with religious fanatics here. The only reason they didn't do it the last 2 times they had control was Roe v Wade.

hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
24. Up until the midterms, they had exactly that (as they have in the past as well). NO I do not
Fri May 17, 2019, 09:05 AM
May 2019

think they can successfully pass it nor do I think they WANT to. They know the public doesn't support a national ban. They WANT SCOTUS to overturn ROE--to do the "dirty work", but it then falls to the states.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
13. Gloria Steinem was on Amanpour tonite.
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:17 AM
May 2019

Wow, she did say some points that struck me.

The brutal dictator of Germany imposed this kind of law and padlocked clinics dealing in birth control, etc. Also, if legislators can regulate control over the bodies of women AND men, who's to say they could also impose/demand sterilization on people.

Please do not be upset with me because of my Faith. But I/we never condemn any who have or will have made that choice. Heaven knows it's happened in our midst.

Even as a practicing Christian, I've contemplated the abortion issue and have come to realize it should be a civil issue that has attained the legally decided resolution by the Supreme Court. And then should stay there having been decided. [Did that make sense?]

Don't think because we communicate in a church setting that we are sinless and perfect. We experience the same as all our sisters and brothers in humanity.

Please all, forgive me for this post. Not my intent to offend anyone. 💛

renate

(13,776 posts)
16. This was one of the least offensive things I've ever read in my life
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:36 AM
May 2019

In fact I think it’s a shame that anyone of faith should feel as though they should apologize for that faith, if they aren’t judging anyone or expecting others to live according to the same tenets.

You’re compassionate and awesome.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
17. Thank you. I have a sense of relief.
Fri May 17, 2019, 01:03 AM
May 2019

Two people close to me [acquaintances] chose to have abortions. One who I was best friends with and one I met a number of years after the fact. I never judged them for the decision they made.

I had remorse that my friend told me after it happened. We were just out of high school.
I hugged her and said I love you. Sure if I had been more mature, I mb could've found a plan. She had a steady so there was that. We all hung together. But they made their decision and judging her never ever entered into me.

Peace be to all...



hlthe2b

(102,253 posts)
20. Don't feel you have anything to apologize for. Choice means any range of choices, but likewise
Fri May 17, 2019, 07:30 AM
May 2019

that you are tolerant of other's decisions. You've demonstrated just that. Women who can not imagine ever personally having an abortion but do not try to instill their own beliefs on others are fully within the movement.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
28. It's not just this issue as you can well see.
Fri May 17, 2019, 11:57 AM
May 2019

'They' been noted for strongly impressing their stylized practice of Christianity on others.

I've been asked numerous times, "Where do you go to church?" by complete strangers out of the blue. This is a turn-off.

I don't mind getting prayed for out and about, but don't ask me if I'm saved. or some such.



PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
15. These bible-thumping
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:28 AM
May 2019

anti-abortion fanatics are going to galvanize women. And rightly so.

Funny how these old white guys have alienated minorities, LGBTQ, young people and now women.

lark

(23,099 posts)
27. One thing FL got right - it's state constitution enshrines the right of women for privacy.
Fri May 17, 2019, 10:20 AM
May 2019

There's a lot wrong here, repugs have stolen the state voting systems and allowed Russia access, but this one thing they got right a long time ago and I am so thankful for that.

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