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Vidal

(642 posts)
Sat May 18, 2019, 09:16 AM May 2019

Why we must start Trump impeachment proceedings to force the courts to end obstruction

On Saturday, CNN commentator Rachael Bade told Christi Paul on “New Day Weekend” that even if Democrats don’t ultimately vote to impeach President Donald Trump, just the act of opening impeachment proceedings would be an important step to holding the president accountable — and undermining his efforts to stonewall investigators.

“Investigators in particular who have seen subpoena deadlines come and go, multiple every week, people like [Rep.] Jamie Raskin [(D-MD)], these are the folks that are feeling the most frustrated,” said Bade. “Remember, Judiciary Committee has the authority to start impeachment proceedings. They have been talking about potentially trying to make that case.”

“So, what you’re going to see, is you’re going to see a lot of Democrats go public and say, ‘Listen, there’s a difference between voting to impeach Trump and just voting to start an inquiry,’ because once they open that investigation, investigators feel like the courts will fast-track everything to get them the information they need. That it will be very hard for the Trump Administration to keep them from getting these documents. That they’re keeping them from actually hearing from witnesses.”

Bade acknowledged that there many moderates in the party are not quite ready to take that leap. “So, these members are going to have to convince the public that this is a good idea. And they’re also going to have to convince their colleagues. But I think over the next week, you’re going to hear a lot more people like Jamie Raskin saying, ‘Listen, we need to consider impeachment inquiry, starting these proceedings. It doesn’t mean we have to vote to impeach him. We should start having these hearings.'”

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Why we must start Trump impeachment proceedings to force the courts to end obstruction (Original Post) Vidal May 2019 OP
Pelosi wants to show the courts & nation, she tried everything first. Funtatlaguy May 2019 #1
She was Speaker in 2010 watoos May 2019 #2
Impeach or wait for results of secret grand juries? Chasdev May 2019 #3
Barr himself said that he would release watoos May 2019 #4
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. She was Speaker in 2010
Sat May 18, 2019, 09:38 AM
May 2019

when the House lost 64 seats, that thought has to be in the back of her head. I hope she is right about waiting and I hope I am wrong but it sure seems to me that Trump has total control of the narrative. Now with Barr appointing a special prosecutor who reports directly to him, he can spin whatever tale he wants to about the witch hunt against Trump, right up to election time. I also see little evidence that we will get court decisions in a timely matter. Who is to say that Trump will abide by federal judge's decisions?

Chasdev

(33 posts)
3. Impeach or wait for results of secret grand juries?
Sat May 18, 2019, 09:41 AM
May 2019

I'm all in on impeachment but still hold out hope, even after an emotional face plant over the mummification of Mueller's report, that Lady Justice may flip over trump's rock and expose the Russian backed republican worms and slugs.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. Barr himself said that he would release
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:36 AM
May 2019

grand jury testimony for an impeachment hearing. Democrats would have an extremely strong case to get that grand jury information under an impeachment hearing, that's where all the juicy stuff is.

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