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Vidal

(642 posts)
Sat May 18, 2019, 09:46 AM May 2019

Why 2020 Will Be Another Massive Blue Wave, and a GOP Bloodbath

Democrats won the 2018 midterm elections by 10 million votes, the largest margin in history.

And it was mostly because of women voters turning out to send a message to the GOP. According to Pew, nearly 60% of women voted for Democrats and just 40% voted for Republicans. (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/08/the-2018-midterm-vote-divisions-by-race-gender-education/)

Now, thanks to the anti-women actions being taken by Republicans at all levels of government, women are more angry than ever.

With new state laws making abortion illegal, the GOP has further awakened and angered the sleeping giant known as the female electorate. (53% of all votes cast are cast by women.)

This means that 2020 will probably be a Blue Tsunami unlike anything we've ever seen.

It will be helped by the ongoing hearings and investigations in the House which will let the American public know that Trump is indeed both a traitor and a criminal.

The best thing that could happen for Democrats is for Republicans in various states to continue to pass stupid anti-women laws. They'll all be thrown out in court anyway, but in the meantime they will serve the great purpose of activating and motivating tens of millions of women voters.

Maybe 2020 will be the year that a woman is elected as president after all.

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Why 2020 Will Be Another Massive Blue Wave, and a GOP Bloodbath (Original Post) Vidal May 2019 OP
Yep, keep passing those stupid draconian laws and shove them down people's throats dalton99a May 2019 #1
The "best thing for Democrats" is the WORST thing that could happen to those... lastlib May 2019 #12
I doubt those laws will never be put in force. They'll be tied up in courts for years. oldsoftie May 2019 #20
Agreed. John Fante May 2019 #29
Wouldn't count on the laws being "all be thrown out in court..." Va Lefty May 2019 #2
With heavy heart I agree. It will take many years/decades to clean up this mess. c-rational May 2019 #3
I thought the Heritage Foundation was doing the judge-picking for them. n/t cynatnite May 2019 #4
Meet the powerful group behind Trump's judicial nominations charlyvi May 2019 #5
Myopic Mitch is creating long term failures for short term gain. Eyeball_Kid May 2019 #7
And WHY aren't males just as outraged??? Eyeball_Kid May 2019 #6
WHY aren't males just as outraged??? rambler_american May 2019 #17
This male is outraged. This male is livid. Farmer-Rick May 2019 #18
Thanks for speaking up! lunatica May 2019 #23
Many of us ARE. And polls show this is a loser for the GOP oldsoftie May 2019 #35
I agree with the Blue Tsunami prediction. Death by 1000 cuts over the next year is going OnDoutside May 2019 #8
Democratic anger has not stopped building and nothing indicates it beachbum bob May 2019 #9
I agree Moral Compass May 2019 #10
I hope you're right. I think the tariffs might have an even bigger effect in some states... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #11
Why do you believe 2020 will be more free and fair than 2016 or 2018 senate races? uponit7771 May 2019 #13
Farmers are cannabis_flower May 2019 #14
Here is the thing, I'm a farmer and one of my markets has dried up because of Trump Farmer-Rick May 2019 #21
My dad is a farmer TheFarseer May 2019 #25
Yeah the larger farmers, over 1,000 acres, they love all thing RepubliCON Farmer-Rick May 2019 #37
My experience in rural Iowa politics Vidal May 2019 #38
Hearts with you. Without you folks we're all sunk. mahina May 2019 #34
I love your optimism mountain grammy May 2019 #15
I know I am more angry than ever! I will be calling, knocking on doors, EVERYTHING in 2020! SunSeeker May 2019 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2019 #19
There's nothing like pissed off women reacting en masse. lunatica May 2019 #22
I Surely Hope So colsohlibgal May 2019 #24
These idiots are overplaying their hand. Turbineguy May 2019 #26
Oh Lord, I hope so. demigoddess May 2019 #27
Turnout HAS to be great enough to overcome the Electoral College & Putin. VOX May 2019 #28
New Mexico is a solid blue. Turin_C3PO May 2019 #30
60.7 million Americans voted for Democrats in the 2018 midterms. John Fante May 2019 #31
I'm hoping coal miners wre just as mad as the farmers. Norbert May 2019 #32
and Iran. lindysalsagal May 2019 #33
I hope you're right, and will work to make it so... Wounded Bear May 2019 #36

dalton99a

(81,468 posts)
1. Yep, keep passing those stupid draconian laws and shove them down people's throats
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:02 AM
May 2019

Treasonous assholes




lastlib

(23,222 posts)
12. The "best thing for Democrats" is the WORST thing that could happen to those...
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:58 AM
May 2019

...who actually have to live under those laws. We cannot automatically guarantee that they will be immediately repealed upon a Democratic Party electoral victory. If will take time, and the repukes will fight like mad banshees to stop us. We have got to fight those laws NOW, and if we fail now, we will win in November 2020 and take up the fight again with a stronger army.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
20. I doubt those laws will never be put in force. They'll be tied up in courts for years.
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:40 PM
May 2019

And i have my doubts that the SCOTUS will even take these laws. Which would leave lower court rulings stopping them in effect. We'll see

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
2. Wouldn't count on the laws being "all be thrown out in court..."
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:11 AM
May 2019

The Federalist Society keeps recommending "judges" to Moscow Mitch and they keep getting confirmed. They could care less about legality. They have an agenda and will be around for many years.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
5. Meet the powerful group behind Trump's judicial nominations
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:36 AM
May 2019

The Trump administration has been filling judicial vacancies in rapid succession, with the majority of nominees having one thing in common: ties to the Federalist Society.

snip

Of the 13 judicial nominees confirmed since President Trump took office, 10 are either current or former Federalist Society members or regular speakers at its events. Eight of the 10 appellate Trump nominees pending before the Senate have ties to the group.

snip

“I would say I think the Federalist Society has come to play over the last 30 years for Republican presidents something of the role the American Bar Association has traditionally played for Democratic presidents,” Calabresi said in an interview with The Hill.

“The last two Republican presidents have disregarded ABA ratings, and I think they are relying on the Federalist Society to come up with qualified nominees.”

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/360598-meet-the-powerful-group-behind-trumps-judicial-nominations

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
7. Myopic Mitch is creating long term failures for short term gain.
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:54 AM
May 2019

Mitch is making Congress a vestigial organ of government. He's voluntarily engineering a process that renders his own branch of government subservient to the Executive Branch. He's committing political suicide in slow motion.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
6. And WHY aren't males just as outraged???
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

I don't understand, except that the males who are not voting against Trumpy are in massive denial that THEY are also effected by anti-women legislation, and not in a good way. The "battle of the sexes" nonsense is a relic of the past. Equality for all is here and now. Males have to understand that when females are targeted for discrimination and as a class of people inferior to males, we all lose. Hopefully, women will take the reigns of power, persist, and prevail. It's for the good of ALL of us.

rambler_american

(789 posts)
17. WHY aren't males just as outraged???
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:33 PM
May 2019

Speaking for myself, I am outraged. Friends I have spoken to are as well. We are all in this mess together and we will fight side by side. Or we damn sure need to. Truck Fump.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
18. This male is outraged. This male is livid.
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:34 PM
May 2019

They are treating my most beloved friends and family like objects to be used and then thrown away to suffer the repercussions of the religiously insane, anti-science 1800's laws. My daughters and granddaughters are not their things and not their religion. My daughters are thinking, breathing capable adults that don't need regressive white males to tell them what to do with their bodies.

But here is the thing, there is an abortion pill. No matter what these f*cking assholes think, my daughters and granddaughters will have access to safe abortions whenever they want because they can NOT stop all those pills from getting into the country. The pills are pretty safe if taken carefully and everyday science is making advances in their safety and simplicity of use. Science has advanced too far to stop women from taking control of their reproduction. There are countries that sell the abortion pill over the counter. Now fat white rich males, try and stop them from crossing the border.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. Thanks for speaking up!
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019

It’s really important for women to know men are on our side. We need to hear it because we can’t assume men see the damage these laws do. We’re learning the danger of assuming men appreciate our rights.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
8. I agree with the Blue Tsunami prediction. Death by 1000 cuts over the next year is going
Sat May 18, 2019, 10:54 AM
May 2019

to hurt Trump badly, on top of what he's doing to his own base with the tariffs. The crucial point is to keep exposing the Republicans and show they can't be trusted with power.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
9. Democratic anger has not stopped building and nothing indicates it
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:12 AM
May 2019

will. For the first time in decades our anger is blowing up all over the country.

Moral Compass

(1,519 posts)
10. I agree
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:52 AM
May 2019

I have two daughters and a wife and they HATE Trump. They made sure they voted. They will vote again. Now take that seething hatred and apply it to women all over the country that have been further enraged by these stupid, draconian abortion laws rammed through legislatures where there are super majorities gained by extreme gerrymandering.

Republican policies are extremely unpopular. They are desperate to jam these things through while they have the power. They know their time is short.

I live in Texas and even here these twisted, ignorant zealots (almost all male) are beginning to lose their grip. These old men (and women) will soon die off.

We need to all redouble our efforts. These idiots will continue to try and enshrine their awful ideas into law.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. I hope you're right. I think the tariffs might have an even bigger effect in some states...
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:58 AM
May 2019

the rust belt, some southern agricultural states. Farm closures have reached a decades-long high. People usually vote their pocketbook, IMO.

But WOMEN will be spurred on by the anti-abortion bills that have passed...the states just went berzerko way too far. They could've gotten away with a couple of mild restrictions, maybe...but effectively banning all abortions, even in the case of rape or incest, is going to get the ire of women up.

Since those states are Republican, anyway, I don't know that the abortion issue will give the Democratic candidate a win in those states. We'll see.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
21. Here is the thing, I'm a farmer and one of my markets has dried up because of Trump
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:45 PM
May 2019

A soybean wholesaler has refused my crop because he doesn't have as many orders.

Yet, I've Not gotten any subsidies. I checked with the Ag department and they are offering nothing for my loss. So, who is getting the bail outs? It certainly isn't this small farmer.

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
25. My dad is a farmer
Sat May 18, 2019, 01:46 PM
May 2019

I’ve been close to the farm community my whole life and it’s really hard to picture that community voting Democrat in any kind of numbers. Granted they are unhappy with Trump but it’s just a reflex Democrats are weirdos that want to take away your money, kill babies, and take away your freedom. Do you see any hope for this situation? Have you noticed the tide turning?

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
37. Yeah the larger farmers, over 1,000 acres, they love all thing RepubliCON
Sun May 19, 2019, 08:10 AM
May 2019

They don't seem to be turning Democratic no matter how much money RepubliCONS cause them to lose. These are usually chemical farmers who use Roundup, every pesticide, fungicide, and antibiotic they can get their hands on. It's all about getting every bit of production off their land no matter what.

But the smaller farmers who are moving into real organics and antibiotic free, pasture raised uncaged animals are on a smaller margin and can't afford to have RepubliCONS routinely destroy their markets. They are turning to the democratic party. A small farmer co-op tried to meet with their RepubliCON Congress critters but got put off. They are about 100 small farms. They probably won't ever vote RepubliCON again, they are so angry.

I actually had an old farmer tell me he liked what Bernie had to say. So, I think Dems could get a foothold in this area at least among the smaller farmers.The real problem here is that the precincts and voting districts are so gerrymandered that the religiously insane kind of overwhelm the small farmer vote. My district is a snake along the border. It really does look like a salamander.

 

Vidal

(642 posts)
38. My experience in rural Iowa politics
Sun May 19, 2019, 10:02 AM
May 2019

I'm from small town Iowa, very rural area. I've seen the Democratic Party have ups and downs in rural areas over the past 50 years. My mother was State Vice-chair of the Iowa Democratic Party in the 60's, and on Dem. National Committee in the 70's, so I've seen everything from inside.

I've seen the pendulum swing back and forth. Iowa has elected Dem. senators and governors, and what needs to happen is that the rural Republicans need to stay home in larger numbers. Many will not vote for Democrats, but if they stay home that is the same thing since the Republican candidates won't get their votes.

It's worthwhile to note that Iowa now has 3 Democrats out of 4 members of Congress. (Two GOP seats went Blue in 2018.)

If Democrats can get some rural votes it will help them win because they already have the city votes. They don't need to win the majority of rural votes, just enough to carry the district (or the state).

As former Dem. Iowa governor Tom Vilsack said, it's important that Democrats try to compete hard in rural areas, because they can pick up enough votes there to win elections. What happened under Obama was that Democrats gave up on competing in rural areas and now the GOP controls 2/3 of state legislatures. This has to change.

mahina

(17,647 posts)
34. Hearts with you. Without you folks we're all sunk.
Sat May 18, 2019, 09:07 PM
May 2019

Just like men care about women’s health, is non farmers should care about you folks who farm. Hoping for a solution that heals us and restores us all. Aloha.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. I know I am more angry than ever! I will be calling, knocking on doors, EVERYTHING in 2020!
Sat May 18, 2019, 12:31 PM
May 2019

I'm pissed at Trump, McConnell, Kavanaugh, and even that feckless Mueller. Fuck all Republicans!

Response to Vidal (Original post)

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
24. I Surely Hope So
Sat May 18, 2019, 01:00 PM
May 2019

If women aren’t energized by the all on assault on Roe I will be amazed. This is it ladies we need to fight this with all we have.

Not that there isn’t an abundance of reasons to kick this mean, dumb, crazy excuse for a human being to the curb.

Turbineguy

(37,322 posts)
26. These idiots are overplaying their hand.
Sat May 18, 2019, 02:10 PM
May 2019

Get rid of republicans before the only Right you have left is to be able to shoot school children.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. Turnout HAS to be great enough to overcome the Electoral College & Putin.
Sat May 18, 2019, 02:27 PM
May 2019

The Red States will mostly remain red, and the Blue States sure as hell will be voting “D” with a vengeance.

But once again, it’ll all come down to those same swing states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Missouri, Florida, Wisconsin and maybe New Mexico, North Carolina, Virginia.

And all of this presupposes that the 2016 election will be free and fair — something the Republican Party will not even address, even though it was recently reported that Russians actually hacked into voter rolls in two Florida counties.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
31. 60.7 million Americans voted for Democrats in the 2018 midterms.
Sat May 18, 2019, 03:53 PM
May 2019

Not only is that close to Gump's 62.9 million haul in 2016, and it's more than the number of votes John Kerry got in 2004. Again, it was a MID-TERM. I don't think enough people appreciate how impressive this number is.

I get that a lot of us are still traumatized by what happened in 2016, but make no mistake: NOTHING - not Putin, not the media, not the electoral college, not the Jill Steins of the world - can prevent Gump's defeat if we show up to vote. I believe we will. The apathy that ruined us in 2010, 2014, and 2016 is long gone.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
32. I'm hoping coal miners wre just as mad as the farmers.
Sat May 18, 2019, 03:54 PM
May 2019

Coal mining companies going bankrupt, coal mining jobs will be lost and don the con renaged on yet another meaningless promise. The message should be loud and clear. Hillary offered job retraining for the coal miners. But oh those emails.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
36. I hope you're right, and will work to make it so...
Sat May 18, 2019, 09:31 PM
May 2019

I live in a blue state, where the majority of Reps (including mine) and both Senators are Ds.

It sickens me what R's are doing in red states. We need to support our sisters and brothers in red states as much as possible. I hope we get some strong candidates and that we can repeat and build on 2018.

The fight goes on.

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