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ck4829

(35,074 posts)
Mon May 20, 2019, 07:16 AM May 2019

Making a child give birth is an attack on the concept of childhood

Our system isn't perfect, it could always use more and more reform, but not letting 11 year old girls become mothers is a step in the right direction.

Let's work to ensure it wasn't a step in the right direction.

Childhood is a social construct, but it's one that has created a degree of social equality... that it doesn't matter if you are poor or rich, if you are a CHILD, you shouldn't be working or being a mother, you shouldn't be worried about money or carrying children, you should be learning, socializing, and having fun.

This isn't a coincidence, this isn't a bug, an unintended consequence of the right wing agenda. The concept of a universal childhood is a blow against social stratification, the child of a richer-than-God parent has something in common with the child of a poorer-than-dirt parent. And of course if these bans go through, the child of a richer-than-God parent won't be forced to give birth, it's not going to happen, we all know that.

The right wing at it's core likes social stratification, it desires it, it sees it as normal and even a good thing. Heck, this goes back to the very root of left vs right in the French Revolution; somebody is supposed to be a king and somebody is supposed to be a peasant.

It's funny, we're being told people on the Democratic side and the Republican side need to stop being divided and come together, yet here we are, creating divisions between the rich and the poor, making the class system more and more real, more palpable.

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Making a child give birth is an attack on the concept of childhood (Original Post) ck4829 May 2019 OP
Yes. And we are making the class system more rigid, more permanent. raging moderate May 2019 #1
This is an interesting take. WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #2
It is cruelty to children plain and simple, as is putting children in cages. shraby May 2019 #3
It's child abuse The Blue Flower May 2019 #4
OTOH, we have a problem with "adults" who have never grown up... Wounded Bear May 2019 #5
we are devolving. long childhoods are required for our complex brains mopinko May 2019 #6

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
1. Yes. And we are making the class system more rigid, more permanent.
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:12 AM
May 2019

Or rather, THEY are trying to do that. We must continue to resist.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,337 posts)
2. This is an interesting take.
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:25 AM
May 2019

OTOH, the number of people who get abortions who are younger than 15 represent less than .2% of all abortions. Still, it's a good point.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. It is cruelty to children plain and simple, as is putting children in cages.
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:32 AM
May 2019

This is the republican of today. Cruel, uncompromising, greedy, unlawful and a host of other bad traits.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
4. It's child abuse
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:57 AM
May 2019

A child will never recover from the physical and emotional trauma of a full-term pregnancy and delivery.

Wounded Bear

(58,653 posts)
5. OTOH, we have a problem with "adults" who have never grown up...
Mon May 20, 2019, 10:10 AM
May 2019

It's not just the asshole in the White House. All of the instant gratification and mindless dedication to pop icons and TV shows is not really "adult" behavior.

We've become a culture that is in so many ways barely out of adolescence. Voting for a reality TV character is a symptom of the disease.

mopinko

(70,102 posts)
6. we are devolving. long childhoods are required for our complex brains
Mon May 20, 2019, 05:15 PM
May 2019

to acquire our full potential.
between 11 yo mothers, and 12 yo heroes in school shootings, we are skidding backwards.

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