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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:33 AM May 2019

The NYT money-laundering story presents a fresh conundrum for Mnuchin.

Mnuchin argues (in opposition to what the law actually says) that Congress needs a "legitimate purpose" if they want to see Trump's tax-returns.

In 2016 financial analysts at Deutsche Bank found evidence that Trump might be involved in money-laundering and recommended informing US law-enforcement for a thorough investigation. Their efforts were sabotaged by senior staff and US agencies were never informed.
(I guess, Deutsche Bank knew that if the Feds were to go after Trump, they would never get their loans back.)

So...

If the US President is under suspicion of money-laundering, is that a "legitimate purpose" for taking a closer look at his tax-returns?

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The NYT money-laundering story presents a fresh conundrum for Mnuchin. (Original Post) DetlefK May 2019 OP
Good question to ask Mnuchin tomorrow. watoos May 2019 #1
This would make Mnuchin guilty of obstruction, wouldn't it? The Blue Flower May 2019 #2
Munchkin had better hit the yellow brick road and fast. lagomorph777 May 2019 #7
Mnuchin be scoochin'. appal_jack May 2019 #3
Calling Ex SC justice Kennedy's son to testify before Congress and SDNY would be a nice start...nt SayItLoud May 2019 #4
YUP !! pangaia May 2019 #12
As well as his Dad. Nt avebury May 2019 #13
Reminds Us That The SC Is The Only Federal Court Wihthout Ethics Rules From Congress corbettkroehler May 2019 #22
Deutsche Bank was concerned PatSeg May 2019 #5
That's why they kept giving him loans: DetlefK May 2019 #6
Old Maxim kairos12 May 2019 #10
And Trump pulled PatSeg May 2019 #21
Clearly some actual swamp draining never took place. BSdetect May 2019 #8
munchkin is committing a crime duforsure May 2019 #9
OK you have bank fraud and money laundering but really what about HRC's emails? Botany May 2019 #11
Benghazi! QED May 2019 #14
Did you know that HRC used her email server to block a rescue mission from going to Benghazi? Botany May 2019 #16
I expect that'll be in a tweet soon lunatica May 2019 #15
I liked last night how 60 minutes had a money laundering segment kimbutgar May 2019 #17
No, Dems can't appear to submit to these illegal procon May 2019 #18
Mnuchin needs to be arrested immediately! This is fucking bullshit. triron May 2019 #19
It's a chicken and egg thing. KY_EnviroGuy May 2019 #20

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
2. This would make Mnuchin guilty of obstruction, wouldn't it?
Mon May 20, 2019, 08:53 AM
May 2019

He's covering the wrong butt. He should start looking out for his own.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
22. Reminds Us That The SC Is The Only Federal Court Wihthout Ethics Rules From Congress
Mon May 20, 2019, 07:44 PM
May 2019

This is not a new problem but never has it needed addressing more than now!

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
5. Deutsche Bank was concerned
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:42 AM
May 2019

it would never get their loans back? Do they really not know who they were dealing with?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. That's why they kept giving him loans:
Mon May 20, 2019, 09:44 AM
May 2019

They gave him the second loan, because otherwise Trump would go bankrupt and they wouldn't get their first loan back.

They gave him the third loan, because otherwise Trump would go bankrupt and they wouldn't get their first and second loan back.

They gave him the fourth loan, because otherwise Trump would go bankrupt and they wouldn't get their first, second and third loan back...

kairos12

(12,859 posts)
10. Old Maxim
Mon May 20, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

If you owe the bank $100,000 the bank owns you.

If you owe the bank $100,000,000 you own the bank.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. munchkin is committing a crime
Mon May 20, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

when the law states the taxes shall be provided period, and it's clearly being ignored,so he deserves consequences for this,or it'll get much worse. they should be made examples of to prevent more of this obstruction. he should be investigated and asked if he and trump conspired. he also needs to be asked if he knew of any illegal activities regarding trump, then if he lies he"s in deep trouble.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
11. OK you have bank fraud and money laundering but really what about HRC's emails?
Mon May 20, 2019, 10:26 AM
May 2019

Last edited Mon May 20, 2019, 11:02 AM - Edit history (1)

Botany

(70,501 posts)
16. Did you know that HRC used her email server to block a rescue mission from going to Benghazi?
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
May 2019

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. I expect that'll be in a tweet soon
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:03 AM
May 2019

Maybe even today.

And the mighty roar rising from MAGAville will be heard all over the land!

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
17. I liked last night how 60 minutes had a money laundering segment
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:20 AM
May 2019

Educating the viewing tv audience to what is money laundering in prep for these disclosures.

procon

(15,805 posts)
18. No, Dems can't appear to submit to these illegal
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:20 AM
May 2019

Republican demands. The law is plain and simple, and the Dems are clearly within their legal and statutory rights to demand any tax records, regardless of any reason.

Trump and his troop of brainless sycophants are acting above the law. They have no defensible position for not complying with the existing law... Just as other administrations have done before Trump.

By all means, Dems should investigate Trump's potential illegal activities in association with the bank, but that is a separate issue to the law that gives them the power to review any tax records.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
20. It's a chicken and egg thing.
Mon May 20, 2019, 11:34 AM
May 2019

Could be wrong, but it's my understanding Congress needs some legitimate preemptive evidence - perhaps legally presented in court cases or perhaps items sent by a legitimate whistle-blower - in order for an official investigation with hearings to be triggered.

Except of course when Rethugs are in charge, multi-year investigations can be triggered by something Limbaugh or Alex Jones was overheard saying in a restroom in Peoria.

KY......

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