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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:21 PM May 2019

I agree. Slate "Democratic Reluctance to Even Utter "Impeachment" Is Becoming Untenable"

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/nancy-pelosi-impeachment.html

By DAHLIA LITHWICK

MAY 21, 20196:35 PM

There is perhaps no better encapsulation of the difference between the two modern American political parties than this one: Republicans start from the presumption that “treason” and “spying” will be prosecuted without actual evidence, while Democrats start from the presumption that only once they have seen all the evidence of everything ever, they might conclude that some further investigation is warranted. Donald Trump leads deranged stadium rallies in chanting “lock them up” without ever specifying who committed what alleged crime. Democrats, faced with a case of what would be felony obstruction of justice but for a legal guidance against prosecuting a sitting president, insist that they cannot initiate impeachment proceedings because they need to gather more information. Republicans standing two inches away from a Seurat painting see a still life in crimes committed, while Democrats standing six feet back are certain that just one more blue dot would help them see the whole picture.

This is not a new problem. Those of us who feared that the Mueller report would never be the smoking gun Democrats were dreaming of warned that limiting the reach of the aperture to criminal obstruction and illegal “collusion” by necessity blocked out a massive range of criminal and impeachable conduct by the president and his confederates. Last week Walter Dellinger made the same observation about the Democrats’ strange myopia around the new holy grail—an unredacted Mueller report. As the former solicitor general put it:

"Mueller’s extraordinary 2,800-subpoena, 500-search-warrant, two-year investigation fully established not merely crimes but also the betrayal of the president’s office: a failure to defend the country’s electoral system from foreign attack and acts of interference with justice that shred the rule of law. Congress doesn’t need to read more to announce what is obvious from what it should have read already."

For House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, though, individual political calculus continues to take precedence over the rule of law. That position is becoming more and more untenable, as cracks appear in the Democratic front and even a Republican member of Congress is able to point out what is right in front of us all. “Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment,” GOP Rep. Justin Amash said over the weekend. Amash understands what is obvious to anyone who read the Mueller report in good faith: We have more than enough data to name and investigate the crime. Amash has been joined by a fistful of renegade Democrats who are finally content to say “we know enough.” If not enough to impeach, then at least enough to initiate an inquiry.

big snip - but worth reading it all. The end -

Democrats in leadership pretend at conviction and lack courage. The president is lawless and corrupt and surrounding himself with the machinery of lawlessness and corruption. These same Democrats are waiting for the full picture staring them right in the face to emerge. Every step they take closer allows them to miss the big picture, distort the narrative, and chase an ever more elusive final dot. If the public isn’t with them yet, it’s because the public doesn’t have all day to spend in a museum and needs to have the picture presented to them where they live. Congressional Democrats have to repaint the picture that is already directly before them. This shouldn’t be complicated. It’s proving beyond their competence.



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I agree. Slate "Democratic Reluctance to Even Utter "Impeachment" Is Becoming Untenable" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal May 2019 OP
The Dems in the House are meeting tomorrow BigmanPigman May 2019 #1
Oh geez. Iliyah May 2019 #2
Why? Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #7
K&R mountain grammy May 2019 #3
Yet another trash Democrats thread. sheshe2 May 2019 #4
I think of it as an eyes open, reality thread NRaleighLiberal May 2019 #5
I see it differently. nt sheshe2 May 2019 #6
Seems like it is just a political game Beringia May 2019 #8
K & R democrank May 2019 #9

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
1. The Dems in the House are meeting tomorrow
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:30 PM
May 2019

and I have the feeling the tide is turning. The public is pressuring their reps to ACT, it has been 60 days since Mueller's report was released. Time is up!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Oh geez.
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:31 PM
May 2019

Why not also focus on the Republicans. Moscow Mitch has been inducing RW corrupt judges and members of this fucked up administrations since day one. Where is the outrage on that?

Regarding Democrats, full picture without the needed evidence is not staring at them. Barr is hiding it. Courts will have step in all the way to the US SC. meanwhile, Impeachment is a given.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
4. Yet another trash Democrats thread.
Tue May 21, 2019, 09:43 PM
May 2019
Congressional Democrats have to repaint the picture that is already directly before them. This shouldn’t be complicated. It’s proving beyond their competence.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
8. Seems like it is just a political game
Tue May 21, 2019, 10:26 PM
May 2019


The republicans abuse it and prosecute for political reasons and the democrats don't prosecute for political reasons. There should be a straight up prosecution for known crimes.
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