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Sat May 25, 2019, 10:38 AM

Pelosi is wrong in thinking that Trump wants to be impeached.

In my opinion, Donald Trump would see impeachment as a blemish, somehow de-legitimizing his Presidency.

It would be similar to him having to admit that Russia helped him defeat Hillary.

It is his nature to try and confuse people by stating the opposite of everything that is going on in his life, indicating his inability to accept reality.

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Reply Pelosi is wrong in thinking that Trump wants to be impeached. (Original post)
kentuck May 2019 OP
FBaggins May 2019 #1
kentuck May 2019 #3
no_hypocrisy May 2019 #2
kentuck May 2019 #4
StarfishSaver May 2019 #10
Andy823 May 2019 #22
Bettie May 2019 #23
H2O Man May 2019 #5
kentuck May 2019 #6
watoos May 2019 #7
EleanorR May 2019 #8
H2O Man May 2019 #12
EleanorR May 2019 #20
kentuck May 2019 #15
Merlot May 2019 #9
StarfishSaver May 2019 #11
Merlot May 2019 #13
StarfishSaver May 2019 #16
marylandblue May 2019 #18
StarfishSaver May 2019 #19
StarfishSaver May 2019 #14
marylandblue May 2019 #17
empedocles May 2019 #21
spanone May 2019 #24

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:40 AM

1. He didn't see multiple bankruptcies as a blemish de-legitimizing his business acumen.

Don't see why he would worry about impeachment if he knew the removal effort would fail.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #1)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:43 AM

3. I think he looks at his business matters in a different way.

He would be more shamed by impeachment, because it reflects his ego.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:41 AM

2. Although . . . . a cogent argument can be made that it's the TIMING of impeachment

that concerns Trump. If SOTH Pelosi prematurely (i.e., now) commences impeachment, Trump has the time to attack, to neutralize, to make it part of his re-election "strategy" of being attacked. He wouldn't have so much time to dilute the impeachment impact next year.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:45 AM

4. Fair point.

I think impeachment weighs heavily on his mind.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:51 AM

10. That's the key right there

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:56 AM

22. Exactly!

For the life of me I can't understand why so many here on DU can not seem to understand that!

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Sat May 25, 2019, 12:41 PM

23. So, they stretch hearings out

There are a whole lot of things, outside Mueller's report that he can be impeached on, including the emoluments clause.

So, have hearings about each and every one of them. By the time that's over, it is next summer and he's running out of time to convince people that none of it is real.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:45 AM

5. Recommended.

Of course he doesn't want to be impeached. He's bluffing when he pretends to challenge Democrats to impeach him. The other day, I posted an essay about this, likening Trump to the fool that says, "Go ahead -- you hit me first." As a young man, I never, ever allowed such an opportunity to pass.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #5)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM

6. Democrats should not fall for this little charade of his..

He was deeply hurt that the Democrats would talk about the "I" word.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM

7. You are spot on Kentuck

 

Why should we believe liar Trump when he says he welcomes impeachment?

I watched his biographer or maybe it was one of the authors of one of his books, anyway, he agreed with you. He said that impeachment would be devastating to Trump. This guy spent a lot of time around Trump so he should know better than we do.

As far as bankruptcies go, Trump is proud of them because he made money off of them.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM

8. I think she's goading him, backing him into a corner

There's no good comeback to her assertion that he wants to be impeached.

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Response to EleanorR (Reply #8)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:53 AM

12. Valid point.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #12)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:10 AM

20. Also calling out Senate republicans

She's showing the country the forgone conclusion is Senate republicans will protect trump no matter what hearings reveal. So clearly if they vote not to convict it is political and nothing to do with justice or innocence. Bottom line is it shows them to be the assholes they are.

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Response to EleanorR (Reply #8)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:00 AM

15. That is a good point.

In a way, it magnifies the issue of impeachment, which is a dreaded thought to him, in my opinion.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:51 AM

9. Pelosi isn't "wrong" and doubtful she knows what he's thinking

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Response to Merlot (Reply #9)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:52 AM

11. Pelosi's got a better handle on this than any of us do

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #11)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:53 AM

13. Exactly. She's got much more experience and inside information

I get so tired of "wrong-thinking" women sentiments.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #13)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:01 AM

16. IKR?

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #11)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:07 AM

18. I am pretty sure she has gotten professional advice on handling an extreme narcissist.

Because she is doing exactly what you should do with an extreme narcissist. I've worked with one in my life and the resemblance to Trump is uncanny, except Trump is much worse.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #18)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:08 AM

19. I agree 100%

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 10:59 AM

14. We don't know what she's thinking, but...




I suspect Trump doesn't care if he gets impeached - he has no shame and no sense of or concern about history - but he wants to control the timing. The sooner it happens, the better for him.

He'd get it out of the way well before the election, giving him plenty of time to throw a few hundred new distractions in the mix so that, by November 2020, the impeachment is a long ago memory. AND, doing it now would mean he'd be impeached with a lot less evidence and any attempt to hold him accountable for other or new wrongdoing would be curtailed, if not shut down altogether in the future.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:02 AM

17. Trump is a hard read because he doesn't want what you and I want.

Like all narcissists, he wants, above all else, to protect his ego. Everything else may be sacrificed in protection of that one thing. He doesn't want information to get out about him because of it may damage his ego, not because he fears jail or impeachment. He'd would like the Democrats to impeach him and fail to convict, as that would build his ego. He assumes they would fail because his ego won't let him think they could succeed. Even if he were convicted, he would be disappointed for a few days until he comes up with an ego-protecting myth, which inevitably would be "the Republicans were disloyal."

Understanding that it's all about ego and nothing else is the key to understanding Trump. Money, power and even total failure mean nothing to him except insofar as they affect his ego.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:48 AM

21. traitortrump may not 'want' to be impeached, but he knows its likely to happen and he will

have to deal with impeachment proceedings at some point. trump may want to try and get it over with sooner rather than later.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 12:46 PM

24. K&R...

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