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kentuck

(111,089 posts)
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:38 AM May 2019

Pelosi is wrong in thinking that Trump wants to be impeached.

In my opinion, Donald Trump would see impeachment as a blemish, somehow de-legitimizing his Presidency.

It would be similar to him having to admit that Russia helped him defeat Hillary.

It is his nature to try and confuse people by stating the opposite of everything that is going on in his life, indicating his inability to accept reality.

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Pelosi is wrong in thinking that Trump wants to be impeached. (Original Post) kentuck May 2019 OP
He didn't see multiple bankruptcies as a blemish de-legitimizing his business acumen. FBaggins May 2019 #1
I think he looks at his business matters in a different way. kentuck May 2019 #3
Although . . . . a cogent argument can be made that it's the TIMING of impeachment no_hypocrisy May 2019 #2
Fair point. kentuck May 2019 #4
That's the key right there StarfishSaver May 2019 #10
Exactly! Andy823 May 2019 #22
So, they stretch hearings out Bettie May 2019 #23
Recommended. H2O Man May 2019 #5
Democrats should not fall for this little charade of his.. kentuck May 2019 #6
You are spot on Kentuck watoos May 2019 #7
I think she's goading him, backing him into a corner EleanorR May 2019 #8
Valid point. H2O Man May 2019 #12
Also calling out Senate republicans EleanorR May 2019 #20
That is a good point. kentuck May 2019 #15
Pelosi isn't "wrong" and doubtful she knows what he's thinking Merlot May 2019 #9
Pelosi's got a better handle on this than any of us do StarfishSaver May 2019 #11
Exactly. She's got much more experience and inside information Merlot May 2019 #13
IKR? StarfishSaver May 2019 #16
I am pretty sure she has gotten professional advice on handling an extreme narcissist. marylandblue May 2019 #18
I agree 100% StarfishSaver May 2019 #19
We don't know what she's thinking, but... StarfishSaver May 2019 #14
Trump is a hard read because he doesn't want what you and I want. marylandblue May 2019 #17
traitortrump may not 'want' to be impeached, but he knows its likely to happen and he will empedocles May 2019 #21
K&R... spanone May 2019 #24

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
1. He didn't see multiple bankruptcies as a blemish de-legitimizing his business acumen.
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:40 AM
May 2019

Don't see why he would worry about impeachment if he knew the removal effort would fail.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
3. I think he looks at his business matters in a different way.
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:43 AM
May 2019

He would be more shamed by impeachment, because it reflects his ego.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
2. Although . . . . a cogent argument can be made that it's the TIMING of impeachment
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:41 AM
May 2019

that concerns Trump. If SOTH Pelosi prematurely (i.e., now) commences impeachment, Trump has the time to attack, to neutralize, to make it part of his re-election "strategy" of being attacked. He wouldn't have so much time to dilute the impeachment impact next year.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
22. Exactly!
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:56 AM
May 2019

For the life of me I can't understand why so many here on DU can not seem to understand that!

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
23. So, they stretch hearings out
Sat May 25, 2019, 12:41 PM
May 2019

There are a whole lot of things, outside Mueller's report that he can be impeached on, including the emoluments clause.

So, have hearings about each and every one of them. By the time that's over, it is next summer and he's running out of time to convince people that none of it is real.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
5. Recommended.
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:45 AM
May 2019

Of course he doesn't want to be impeached. He's bluffing when he pretends to challenge Democrats to impeach him. The other day, I posted an essay about this, likening Trump to the fool that says, "Go ahead -- you hit me first." As a young man, I never, ever allowed such an opportunity to pass.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
6. Democrats should not fall for this little charade of his..
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

He was deeply hurt that the Democrats would talk about the "I" word.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. You are spot on Kentuck
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

Why should we believe liar Trump when he says he welcomes impeachment?

I watched his biographer or maybe it was one of the authors of one of his books, anyway, he agreed with you. He said that impeachment would be devastating to Trump. This guy spent a lot of time around Trump so he should know better than we do.

As far as bankruptcies go, Trump is proud of them because he made money off of them.

EleanorR

(2,391 posts)
8. I think she's goading him, backing him into a corner
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

There's no good comeback to her assertion that he wants to be impeached.

EleanorR

(2,391 posts)
20. Also calling out Senate republicans
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:10 AM
May 2019

She's showing the country the forgone conclusion is Senate republicans will protect trump no matter what hearings reveal. So clearly if they vote not to convict it is political and nothing to do with justice or innocence. Bottom line is it shows them to be the assholes they are.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
15. That is a good point.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:00 AM
May 2019

In a way, it magnifies the issue of impeachment, which is a dreaded thought to him, in my opinion.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
13. Exactly. She's got much more experience and inside information
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:53 AM
May 2019

I get so tired of "wrong-thinking" women sentiments.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
18. I am pretty sure she has gotten professional advice on handling an extreme narcissist.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:07 AM
May 2019

Because she is doing exactly what you should do with an extreme narcissist. I've worked with one in my life and the resemblance to Trump is uncanny, except Trump is much worse.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. We don't know what she's thinking, but...
Sat May 25, 2019, 10:59 AM
May 2019



I suspect Trump doesn't care if he gets impeached - he has no shame and no sense of or concern about history - but he wants to control the timing. The sooner it happens, the better for him.

He'd get it out of the way well before the election, giving him plenty of time to throw a few hundred new distractions in the mix so that, by November 2020, the impeachment is a long ago memory. AND, doing it now would mean he'd be impeached with a lot less evidence and any attempt to hold him accountable for other or new wrongdoing would be curtailed, if not shut down altogether in the future.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
17. Trump is a hard read because he doesn't want what you and I want.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:02 AM
May 2019

Like all narcissists, he wants, above all else, to protect his ego. Everything else may be sacrificed in protection of that one thing. He doesn't want information to get out about him because of it may damage his ego, not because he fears jail or impeachment. He'd would like the Democrats to impeach him and fail to convict, as that would build his ego. He assumes they would fail because his ego won't let him think they could succeed. Even if he were convicted, he would be disappointed for a few days until he comes up with an ego-protecting myth, which inevitably would be "the Republicans were disloyal."

Understanding that it's all about ego and nothing else is the key to understanding Trump. Money, power and even total failure mean nothing to him except insofar as they affect his ego.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
21. traitortrump may not 'want' to be impeached, but he knows its likely to happen and he will
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019

have to deal with impeachment proceedings at some point. trump may want to try and get it over with sooner rather than later.

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