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kentuck

(111,089 posts)
Mon May 27, 2019, 08:25 AM May 2019

America needs an intervention

The other day, Speaker Pelosi suggested that Donald Trump needed an "intervention". She suggested that his family might get involved.

If that is indeed true, then the Congress also, might hold the responsibility to intervene in the present divisive government? Does anyone think that we are ready to return to law and order?

Will the "division" situation be any different tomorrow? We cannot permit a leader of such division to lead our country. There are those that prefer to be on the side of those that try to unite this country.

The question is: Do we have the courage to begin the intervention?

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America needs an intervention (Original Post) kentuck May 2019 OP
It's about law and order. kentuck May 2019 #1
I've got less a problem with the law part that purports equal fair treatment to Backseat Driver May 2019 #2
There are some basic and justified laws that both you and I must obey. kentuck May 2019 #3

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
1. It's about law and order.
Mon May 27, 2019, 09:44 AM
May 2019

We cannot permit people to defy the subpoenas from Congress. They are the law writing branch of our government. To encourage such defiance runs counter to our rule of law, also.

There should be no Democrats or Republicans when the laws and institutions of our country are questioned. A subpoena from Congress is not a joking matter. Both Parties must stand together on that matter.

Backseat Driver

(4,392 posts)
2. I've got less a problem with the law part that purports equal fair treatment to
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:25 PM
May 2019

promote the general welfare, and the application of the same which generated opportunities of socioeconomic success and peaceful, civil living, but a whole lot of problems with the order part, the parsing of the words comprising "rule of law", the unclear definitions, the unequal enforcement, mostly by the special interest groups that give goons and thugs that pervert the law the easier opportunity to snatch life, wealth, superior educations, and vitality from a general population melting their heritages together through opportunities to succeed. Things are worse than they seem when we excuse stiff penalties of criminal behavior, white or blue-collar, and turn it into just incivility that can't be adjudicated even by social reprimands that overwhelm any earned redemption and that take advantage of the peaceful and turn a population to not just social disobedience but outright manipulation of the law to yet further take advantage by means of a self-perceived superior group leadership.

That even the SCOTUS appears to have been corrupted through polarization of basic concepts of what remains as the goodness in humanity in which a peaceful individual's (that's the important one) life time can be lived overall (race, gender and orientation, age, speech, religion, etc...) and that takes no action to uphold what is indeed a "bad" personal decision versus a core inherent way of being, leads me to a despair that most of the People are headed back to anarchy, slavery, and what amounts to living in unhealthy caves. Corruption and greed, rotting from the head, has become or perhaps always was, just too tempting; it's coming for me and you with "winning by any means" the only yardstick.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
3. There are some basic and justified laws that both you and I must obey.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:40 PM
May 2019

One of those is a subpoena from the US Congress.

Some might look upon that as some sort of imposition? Rather it is a small price to pay to show that no one is above the law.

If someday Republicans are in charge of Congress and they subpoena someone to answer questions about national security and that "someone" tells them to "go screw themselves", then maybe you will have a different perspective?

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