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Why are Trump lawers and Dems agreeing to delay of turnover of banking documents? (Original Post) pdsimdars May 2019 OP
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #1
This is nuts.... ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #2
I believe the Democrats are murielm99 May 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #4
I don't know. murielm99 May 2019 #6
Everyday on MSNBC hour after hour of the same news stories about trump. wasupaloopa May 2019 #14
Me too..wasupaloopa..gone on a news blackout..tired of this soap drama bullshit.. HipChick May 2019 #20
Because this allows the appeal to be expedited StarfishSaver May 2019 #5
Why would rump's lawyers agree to this? Don't they want to drag it out? nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #16
Good question! StarfishSaver May 2019 #26
I love the MMQBing here SlogginThroughIt May 2019 #7
Exactly StarfishSaver May 2019 #8
Amen to that one! Thekaspervote May 2019 #11
This is damn near gas lighting and you know that. It's a reasonable question that deserves a .... uponit7771 May 2019 #12
But one is not going to get an answer to the question here. Kaleva May 2019 #21
This is false and a strawman, I said reasonable answers and its in the post below. Come on people uponit7771 May 2019 #24
So what is the answer? Kaleva May 2019 #25
Post 10 is ... REASONABLE ... and not "trust them" uponit7771 May 2019 #28
Post #10 suggests that our leaders know what they are doing and we can trust them Kaleva May 2019 #30
I'm sorry, are you accusing me of gaslighting? SlogginThroughIt May 2019 #31
Because Dems negotiated EXPEDITED appeals--which were going to happen anyway. hlthe2b May 2019 #9
Why did rump's lawyers agree to this? Did they have no choice but to? I would think that they UniteFightBack May 2019 #17
They are already on the losing side and they know it. Refusing to expedite appeals would only hlthe2b May 2019 #22
Not sure BUT bluestarone May 2019 #23
As Velvet Ocelot said: it's in order to prevent a separate appeal of the order denying the stay, UniteFightBack May 2019 #29
It's in order to prevent a separate appeal of the order denying the stay, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #10
Well said, and thank you. n/t Adsos Letter May 2019 #15
Hey, thanks to those of you who actually explained what's going on. pdsimdars May 2019 #13
I second this thanks. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #18
The quickest conclusion on DU, is oft not the best conclusion. empedocles May 2019 #19
Ugh! SHRED May 2019 #27

Response to pdsimdars (Original post)

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
3. I believe the Democrats are
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:33 AM
May 2019

laying groundwork and making every effort to appear reasonable. Trump keeps digging deeper and deeper holes for himself while we do that.

Response to murielm99 (Reply #3)

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
6. I don't know.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:40 AM
May 2019

I am looking for reasonable explanations, just like everyone else. These are dangerous, unprecedented times.

I think one thing we could do is ignore most of 45's antics. As Mayor Pete said, let's concentrate on the voters and citizens, what we want and need. Ignore most of 45's rambling, shambling nonsense. Let the media know we won't watch it on TV, listen on the radio or read it in the papers. Social media? That is so polarized it is not worth the time. No one is going to change minds there. Concentrate on We the People, not Trump the Lump.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
14. Everyday on MSNBC hour after hour of the same news stories about trump.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:04 PM
May 2019

Hour after hour of talking heads telling us how bad and unlawful trump is. Not one story about trump getting charged convicted thrown out of office. Because it isn’t going to happen.

I am so bored with it I have turned to watching old movies.

We post here that soon very soon trump will get his just due. Impeach because it is the moral thing to do.

To hell with trump! Report what unlawful or terrible thing he has done today then report on the issues that the 2020 election will be about. Who will get our lose health care. Who will get to afford college. When will we start infrastructure rebuilding and create jobs and an infrastructure bank.

What good things can happen if Dems take over government. How to fight anti abortion states.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. Because this allows the appeal to be expedited
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:36 AM
May 2019

Otherwise, Trump's lawyers could drag it out for weeks or months.

It's the smart move. The Congressional attorneys know what they're doing.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
26. Good question!
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:19 PM
May 2019

They want to drag it out but they also really wanted a stay. And they need the stay right now much more. Since the committee's lawyers knew there was a good chance the judge would grant the stay anyway, this was a good way to use their need of a stay as leverage to get them agree to a faster decision.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
7. I love the MMQBing here
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:44 AM
May 2019

Half the time we hail our Democratic politicians and then half the time we call them crazy, stupid and other names.

Maybe they know what they are doing and besides we put them in their positions.

I have to trust that they know what they are doing.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. Exactly
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019

This question about the stay had been asked and answered a dozen or more times on DU since Friday. But people still assume the worst - and also assume they know more about legal strategy than the litigators handling the case.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
12. This is damn near gas lighting and you know that. It's a reasonable question that deserves a ....
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:55 AM
May 2019

... reasonable answer not derision of some kind.

It's not our job just to trust what our representatives do, we're not children.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
21. But one is not going to get an answer to the question here.
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:38 PM
May 2019

One can only speculate which leads to the question as to who is actually doing the damn near gas lighting?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
24. This is false and a strawman, I said reasonable answers and its in the post below. Come on people
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:08 PM
May 2019

... we don't have time for this.

People ask a reasonable question give em a reasonable answer and "trust them" isn't it

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
25. So what is the answer?
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:17 PM
May 2019

There isn't one to this question now so all we can do is waste time by speculating instead of doing something that's actually useful. Altough one could say that this is entertaining so it's not a waste of time.

Just because you've received answers to other questions doesn't mean that there is an answer to the question the OP posed.

I'm done taking a break from house cleaning so I have to get back on it.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
31. I'm sorry, are you accusing me of gaslighting?
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:03 PM
May 2019

If you are I think you are mistaken.

I am not gaslighting anyone. I'm commenting on the amount of second guessing going on with our representatives. Some people here are making them out as though they are our adversaries.

I think it's a little ridiculous and over the top at times.

We should always question our representatives and we may not always agree with their actions but some of the stuff being said on the site right now make it out like their is no logic at all to their course of action which I find highly ridiculous.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
9. Because Dems negotiated EXPEDITED appeals--which were going to happen anyway.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:50 AM
May 2019

the Dems didn't get "taken" on this... they are working on expediting the process, but they can't stop appeals. Showing good faith in this manner to the appeals court will likewise encourage an accelerated process.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
17. Why did rump's lawyers agree to this? Did they have no choice but to? I would think that they
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:18 PM
May 2019

would want to drag it out anyway they can.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
22. They are already on the losing side and they know it. Refusing to expedite appeals would only
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:50 PM
May 2019

anger judges going forward...

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
23. Not sure BUT
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:06 PM
May 2019

Could be they are thinking the SC will step in to save them? IF that happens we ALL know how far this has infested in our AMERICAN system!! Look out then!! ( I really cannot fathom this will happen)

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
29. As Velvet Ocelot said: it's in order to prevent a separate appeal of the order denying the stay,
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:32 PM
May 2019

because that would piss off the judges. The full reply is a little on down thread.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
10. It's in order to prevent a separate appeal of the order denying the stay,
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:53 AM
May 2019

which would drag out the process even longer. It's not capitulating; it's smart lawyering.

I wish people would stop assuming facts not in evidence in just a headline and actually read the linked articles, where the answer can often be found.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
13. Hey, thanks to those of you who actually explained what's going on.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:57 AM
May 2019

Many just complained about my asking the question. Unlike those on the right, I have never been one for unthinking subservience. Although I do recognize your choice to do so.

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