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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:31 PM May 2019

As Shakespeare put it, the tide is at the flood.

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Professor's Impeachment Prediction Based On 'Deep Study' Of Trump's Character, Career

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/12/722647643/professor-s-impeachment-prediction-based-on-deep-study-of-trump-s-character-care

May 12, 20195:09 PM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

NPR's Michel Martin speaks with American University professor Allan Lichtman about the prediction he made two years ago that President Trump will be impeached.

Excerpt,

MARTIN: You wrote a book in 2017 called "The Case For Impeachment." And in your book, you said, neither Republicans nor Democrats will tolerate a compromised or treacherous president and that an impeachment trial would be quick. Does the reaction of Republican leaders who are standing so firmly behind President Trump change your calculus at all?

LICHTMAN: It really hasn't. Right now, the onus is on the Democrats. This is their historical moment. As Shakespeare put it, the tide is at the flood. They're either going to seize the tide at the flood, or they're going to be washed away by history and be reviled as worse enablers of Donald Trump than even the Republicans.

This is not a time for timidity on the part of Democrats. This is a time for boldness. You have now 45% of the American people calling for impeachment. That's before the House votes any articles. That's before trial. That's higher than the percentage that wanted to see Richard Nixon impeached when they began the impeachment process against him.

So right now, I am very disappointed with the Democrats. They are making the same mistake Democrats always make - being too timid, playing not to lose. And that is a sure remedy for losing and a sure recipe for not doing your constitutional duty. The only way to hold this president accountable with real pain is through impeachment, which strikes at his power and his brand.

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Allan Jay Lichtman is an American political historian who teaches at American University in Washington, D.C. He is well known for predicting most of the presidential winners in the United States Presidential Election since 1984, including forecasting the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election remarkably early. Wikipedia
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Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
1. For months, it's been "This is the moment for Democrats to ACT." How long is a moment?
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:14 PM
May 2019

"History will judge that THIS was the time for a turning of the crisis." Eh? How long is "this time"? When are we past the time to act? When are we past the moment to effect necessary change?

I keep hearing of the absolute necessity for Democrats to get moving on impeachment. But the weeks pass, the months pass, and it's still "the moment is upon us." Well, maybe it isn't. Maybe the Dems just don't have to gumption to do the deed. And maybe the nation falls into a dictatorship BECAUSE the Dems refused to act. Wasn't Sartre quoted as saying that, "not to decide is to decide"? So, where are we, DEMS?

G_j

(40,367 posts)
5. What's so disturbing
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:49 PM
May 2019

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is how much further damage is done every single day.
Makes one wonder if the noose is tightening faster on democracy than on the criminal in the WH.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
2. I've been ambivalent about impeachment, going back and forth....
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:16 PM
May 2019

....as the debate continues. My basic activist nature occasionally yields to fear of more bad blood and confrontation. This article just put me in the "impeach now" camp with the 45 per cent. The perspective of that kind of support for doing the right thing, now, before articles of impeachment are even defined let alone voted on, is really persuasive. Particularly when one considers Trump's 39 per cent approval rating.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. I'm pretty much right where you are with this.
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:19 PM
May 2019

My instinct is that we can't let him and the republicans get away with this and we need to act with boldness, but I still have a fear it could backfire.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
7. "Get away with this" is exactly right. Trump and his Republican enablers "get away" with....
Mon May 27, 2019, 03:30 PM
May 2019

....with too much every day. Just the lying and name calling are bad enough, but the abuse of our Constitution processes are beyond the pale. "Boldness" is also exactly right, though what counts as boldness in this era would have just been a given a few years ago.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. The Republicans...who? Oh yes let's not talk about them, let's never talk about them...let's just
Mon May 27, 2019, 02:56 PM
May 2019

BASH the Democrats WHO ARE ACTING with a plan.

WHEN THIS ALL WORKS OUT, all these fucking posts about Dem's this and Dem's that will evaporate like they never existed right??? Like all the posts BASHING PELOSI - we need to get rid of her, replace her with fresh blood.

UGH.

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