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Demovictory9

(32,455 posts)
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:13 PM May 2019

what other recreational activity involves climbing past dead bodies and a 1 in 10 chance of dying?

It was an unforgettable sight as Ed Dohring made his way to the top of Mount Everest for the first time a few days ago. It was clear and the rising sun cast an orange glow over the world's tallest peak.

But as he stood on the flat part of the 29,000-foot summit, a spot Dohring described as about the size of two Ping-Pong tables, there was another 15 to 20 people jostling for the perfect angle to take a photo.

"I several times was elbowed, pushed aside, shoved," Dohring, a 62-year-old spine surgeon from Arizona, told ABC News in an interview Tuesday at a hotel in Kathmandu, Nepal. "It was scary because, if you lose your footing, potentially you're going to slide off the summit."

“After about 20 minutes I said, 'OK, this is enough.'”

As this year's climbing season draws to a close, overcrowding has been blamed in part for one of Everest's deadliest seasons on record.

Dohring, who scaled the mountain's popular south slope on Nepal's side with a small group of other climbers and a veteran Sherpa guide, said that he passed the bodies of several dead climbers. Among them, was a woman who appeared to have just died and was still clipped to the safety line.

He also saw Sherpas dragging several people down the mountain who had collapsed from exhaustion, were sick or injured.

“You can’t do anything about a person who’s dead and it just -- it shook me inside," Dohring told ABC News. “It was unexpected. I mean, I know people die on Everest. But as you’re moving along the safety line and it’s dark and you’re only seeing a few feet in front of you and all of a sudden that circle of illumination has a dead body in it, it’s very unnerving.”
https://abcnews.go.com/International/american-recalls-unnerving-sight-dead-climbers-mount-everest/story?id=63319546

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what other recreational activity involves climbing past dead bodies and a 1 in 10 chance of dying? (Original Post) Demovictory9 May 2019 OP
I think I would look for another way to prove my manhood. dhol82 May 2019 #1
I've always tried to keep a healthy amount of space.... Iggo May 2019 #11
Totally! dhol82 May 2019 #12
Better yet, not have anything to prove at all. FreeBe May 2019 #13
I'd like to think that most of us grow into that. Iggo May 2019 #16
Ah the freedom of. Yes. FreeBe May 2019 #17
How much manhood is even being proven here these days? Blue_Tires May 2019 #39
None. Snackshack May 2019 #2
Politics comes to mind RainCaster May 2019 #3
Not recreational, but it sounds like the tenure and promotion process. aikoaiko May 2019 #4
They finally got green boots down. This is a normal thing on Everest. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #5
This is not normal dhol82 May 2019 #14
Yes there are more deaths this year etc ...but walking over and seeing dead bodies is normal UniteFightBack May 2019 #20
"This is a normal thing on Everest." Iggo May 2019 #15
I hadn't heard that. Codeine May 2019 #23
Affluenza Thomas Hurt May 2019 #6
Most correct post regarding this obsession. llmart May 2019 #8
At least the symptoms of this affluenza customerserviceguy May 2019 #18
No. Just a beautiful mountain. Hekate May 2019 #36
Its not as high as one in ten. marble falls May 2019 #7
fuck these rich assholes Skittles May 2019 #9
+1. I have zero sympathy or respect for these fetishists with too much money dalton99a May 2019 #10
Neither do I. smirkymonkey May 2019 #25
Saw an interview on DFW CBS Channel 11. MicaelS May 2019 #21
definitely would say "climb" Skittles May 2019 #32
A shady bare-bones guide can get you up for $25k evidently... Blue_Tires May 2019 #40
She stayed for 20 minutes after she realized a real chance of falling off Flaleftist May 2019 #19
I'll give him some credit for realizing how fucked up it was on the way to the summit. Iggo May 2019 #28
I'll give him no credit for not doing some cursory research before going Blue_Tires May 2019 #41
Base jumping is probably equally dangerous milestogo May 2019 #22
6.5% if you're curious. nt Codeine May 2019 #24
I've done a smattering of climbing. Mendocino May 2019 #26
You should google PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #27
+1 Blue_Tires May 2019 #35
I used to respect that Cartoonist May 2019 #29
+1. Just follow the crowd dalton99a May 2019 #30
wow. Looks cold, uncomfortable and dangerous. Demovictory9 May 2019 #31
Yeah, Everest has lost its street cred Blue_Tires May 2019 #38
They need to build an aerial tramway to the top... hunter May 2019 #33
Build a hotel near the top. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #42
It's odd seeing Disney-like lines going up Everest. suffragette May 2019 #34
He's surprised to see corpses? Blue_Tires May 2019 #37

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
11. I've always tried to keep a healthy amount of space....
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:53 PM
May 2019

...between me and someone trying to prove his manhood.

A fella could get hurt.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
16. I'd like to think that most of us grow into that.
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:00 PM
May 2019

The not-having-anything-to-prove, that is.

I strongly suspect it comes with age.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
39. How much manhood is even being proven here these days?
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:43 PM
May 2019

Especially since the guide companies these days swear they can get *anyone* up to the top, even if they've never climbed anything higher than an elementary school jungle gym before...

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
14. This is not normal
Tue May 28, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

The government has recently seen a golden goose and they seem to be in a rush to kill it.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
20. Yes there are more deaths this year etc ...but walking over and seeing dead bodies is normal
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:07 PM
May 2019

on Everest!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
18. At least the symptoms of this affluenza
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:05 PM
May 2019

don't involve going to an exotic location and killing a beautiful animal.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
40. A shady bare-bones guide can get you up for $25k evidently...
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:46 PM
May 2019

From what I can tell, most people are paying in the $35-50k range, and folks who want all the bells and whistles fork out up to $100 grand

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
19. She stayed for 20 minutes after she realized a real chance of falling off
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:06 PM
May 2019

the summit. She stayed 20 minutes to take pictures. I hope I wasn't supposed to feel bad if she would have fallen off the summit.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
28. I'll give him some credit for realizing how fucked up it was on the way to the summit.
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:31 PM
May 2019

And then coming down and basically telling us, "Hey, people. This is some gruesome pointless bullshit."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
41. I'll give him no credit for not doing some cursory research before going
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:49 PM
May 2019

You'd think he would at least know that much better climbers than him have perished... Even world-class, famous climbers.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
22. Base jumping is probably equally dangerous
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:11 PM
May 2019

although you don't usually pass the dead bodies on your way down.

Mendocino

(7,488 posts)
26. I've done a smattering of climbing.
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:17 PM
May 2019

One thing that I did learn is that most climbers are arrogant narcissists.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
27. You should google
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:31 PM
May 2019

Bodies on Everest.

There are a lot of them. They are not usually shown anywhere, and apparently it is quite shocking to the climbers how many bodies they pass.

Keep in mind that it is almost impossible to bring bodies down from the Death Zone.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
29. I used to respect that
Tue May 28, 2019, 09:32 PM
May 2019

I figured it took some skill and courage. No more. I saw a line of tourists walking a trail as if on an amusement park ride.

Now if someone were to tell me they climbed Everest, I would yawn.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
38. Yeah, Everest has lost its street cred
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:41 PM
May 2019

you'd think rich folks would find some new challenge that isn't so played...

hunter

(38,311 posts)
33. They need to build an aerial tramway to the top...
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:17 PM
May 2019

... with pressurized cabins and an observation deck.

Climbing to the top of the mountain and seeing some overweight guy wearing an "I climbed Everest!" tee-shirt on the other side of the glass might take the thrill out of it.



Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. He's surprised to see corpses?
Wed May 29, 2019, 03:39 PM
May 2019

Had he done thirty fucking seconds of web searching before undertaking this expedition, he wouldn't sound so naive...

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